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Mormon doctrine on polygamy Mormon Doctrine on Plural Marriage - This Thread goes deep into all the angles of Mormon Polygamy, the requirement of Celestial Marriage which once encompassed Plural Marriage and the current standing of it with the modern Church. Also deeply analyzed is Joseph Smith's secret practise of it that latter lead to his death. Controversial Mormon Issue.
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31st Dec, 2006 - 11:45am / Post ID: #

Plural Marriage: In That Day Seven Women Shall... - Page 56

Nighthawk, of course this is just my opinion, but I doubt you are ready, in fact I believe this is something that will be left for the next lifetime or Millennium. Yes, it is important, but so are many other items of importance for salvation. As a for instance, and this is ONLY as reference and not meant to carry the Discussion off on a tangent: how you are going to go about getting your Second Anointing if no one can give it to you? The Lord is well aware of all and will sanction things in time as necessary.

Rather off topic, but...
FarSeer, you have mentioned that a couple of times, but I still believe there is someone out there for you wink.gif



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31st Dec, 2006 - 4:24pm / Post ID: #

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how you are going to go about getting your Second Anointing if no one can give it to you? The Lord is well aware of all and will sanction things in time as necessary.


Excellent point. The Second Anointing has pretty much disappeared from the Church since 1890. I believe that Plural Marriage is a requirement for a full, true Second Anointing. There are lots of records of polygamists receiving their Second Anointings in the 1800s, but none, that I know of, for monogamists.

I believe that the Lord wants us to make the "hard choices", not follow the herd. Right now, I am actually making more progress, spiritually, than I have in a very long time. I am trying to prepare for the tribulations ahead, whether they are personal, or general, in nature. Part of that applies to my belief that when the general tribulations come, it will be absolutely vital for righteous men, who hold the Priesthood and have prepared to use it, to provide that Priesthood to the many righteous single women and widows who will need it.

---- Disclaimer: the following is NOT directed at you, personally, but at the attitude in general! ----

JB, you and will probably disagree for a long time on the timetable for plural marriage. I see the timetable you refer to as being a cop-out, a way to avoid the issue now, allowing the corporate church to continue to maintain its good image. I have heard many, many people make the same sort of statement as a way to completely ignore this principle, both in history and in real life.

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But I know an awful lot of wonderful single LDS women who are lonely and hurting, with no options but to endure to the end.


I think I have mentioned this previously, but I think that this is the biggest injustice within the Church. It is a crime, as far as I am concerned, that the Church teaches that marriage is required for exaltation, then denies it to such a huge number of good women.



31st Dec, 2006 - 5:02pm / Post ID: #

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No offense taken - directed or indirected - we are all big people here and as you all know, I simply speak what I believe to invigorate people to share their perspective.

Now at the Topic at hand, yes, I have seen you refer to that as a cop out, and although it may SEEM that way, it isn't and here is why:

What can you do to change things? Will it mean losing your membership in the Church to do so? I think that is a backward step - a big backward step! Will you break away and use 'your' priesthood to start something like the fundamentalists that of course is just creating yet another break away - not so? Or will you receive direct revelation from the Lord to start living such a life? For me, only direct face to face revelation will be sufficient justice for me to be willing to sacrifice Membership in the Church.

Now the other point is this... why even 'try to change it'? You are again kicking against the pricks - it is you, Nighthawk, vs. the Brethren, and we already know who will win the decision.

Lastly, I believe, and I have said this many times... that there are vastly more important principles that will enable us to live this law one day (keep in mind principles are different from commandments). We talk of feeding the hungry and clothing the naked, but yet do none of these on the scale we should, and yet wish for Anointing(s) and an expanse of families - we are wretched creatures and far from deserving of such - hence it was stopped in the first place, because we, the Saints, are faithless!

Rather off topic, but...
Plural marriage is openly given to the dead, and the option will surely be given there to build chains with women who had no opportunity in this life.


Is someone permanently banned because they did not go against the Brethren with this law, a law by the way that only they have the right to sanction in these times based on keys? I doubt it, God has proven His mercy, His understanding of all things.



4th Feb, 2007 - 2:17am / Post ID: #

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Well, well, well BYU have created a site that deals with the topic of Plural Marriage alone and when you think they are going to go in denial about the whole thing you read things like this:

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Mormons living in Canada and Mexico had continued entering into new polygamous marriages between 1890 and 1904 and it appears that some Church leaders turned a blind eye. After 1904, but especially after 1906 when Cowley and Taylor were dropped from the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Mormonism firmly abandoned polygamy.


https://polygamy.byu.edu/

I noticed the person who searched and talks about the topic does it in first person (odd for a University site and is pretty "liberal" on his/her way of expressing) What's up with that?



4th Feb, 2007 - 2:36am / Post ID: #

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Propaganda is always more effective when told from a first person voice. Just the little piece that you posted was full of misinformation.



4th Feb, 2007 - 2:51am / Post ID: #

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Did you check the site? I came out with more questions than answers. Propaganda of what? Yes, there are many things written that they are not accurate, why in the world BYU would want to get involved in this topic at this point of time?



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4th Feb, 2007 - 6:31am / Post ID: #

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Very interesting pages. Down at the bottom is this:

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Copyright © 2006, All Rights Reserved. This is a project of Jim Engebretsen.
When you click on the link for his name, you get his faculty profile. Who is he, and why is this his special project?

It's very basic, and not too detailed about anything, really. I wonder if they are planning to expand on it or not?



4th Feb, 2007 - 10:46pm / Post ID: #

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Farseer said:

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Who is he, and why is this his special project?


He is the Assistant Dean, Corporate Relations at BYU Marriott School but I have no idea how BYU would entrust such a "delicate" topic to this guy.




 
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