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Mormon Doctrine on Plural Marriage - This Thread goes deep into all the angles of Mormon Polygamy, the requirement of Celestial Marriage which once encompassed Plural Marriage and the current standing of it with the modern Church. Also deeply analyzed is Joseph Smith's secret practise of it that latter lead to his death. Controversial Mormon Issue. Related Information to Plural Marriage: In That Day Seven Women Shall...
Plural Marriage: In That Day Seven Women Shall... - Page 57
Well, I saw this one coming! 
He had to shut down the web site after Brigham Young University administrators told him it violated school policy. Let's not forget the guy is an Assistant Dean at BYU Marriott. *laughs*
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| PROVO - Jim Engebretsen has never met a polygamist, but as a Mormon who has spent most of his life outside Utah, he knows people expect him to be an expert on the subject. Or be a polygamist himself. So he became one - an expert, not a polygamist - and started the nonprofit More Good Foundation to combat misconceptions about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on the Internet. Engebretsen's effort hit a snag last week as he began his attempt to explain that Mormons are not polygamists while explaining their polygamist past. He launched a Web page - polygamy.byu.edu - but took it down Monday after Brigham Young University administrators told him it violated school policy. "Some people apparently interpreted that it might be the church making a statement," Engebretsen said. "It's not, it's completely independent. It's me on my own and my foundation." The university's Web site - byu.edu - hosts dozens of links about polygamy, including answers to frequently asked questions about a practice officially disavowed by the LDS Church more than 116 years ago. The difference is that Engebretsen's project is personal, not the product of academic work, BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said. The Web page was clearly marked as Engebretsen's work. "Information contained on the byu.edu domain needs to be information and applications provided by BYU or its colleges or departments," Jenkins said. "If the More Good Foundation had proposed another topic, we would not have been able to accept it, either." |
https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660193375,00.html
What was the guy thinking? And how was able to access part of that domain in the creation of the site in the first place?
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Well, the site is back up and running.
https://www.mormon-polygamy.org/
He must really want to promote the official "history".
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Notice... no name for contact information. Even copyright below is vague. I also did a DNS check and it is not on BYU's server so it is a private cause, but I am sure they disassociated himself with it due to warnings.
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| What can you do to change things? Will it mean losing your membership in the Church to do so? |
Nighthawk, I noticed that you did not answer that, do not tell me you are afraid of a little Mature Discussion?
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As far as I am concerned, my membership IS on the line. Since I fairly openly proclaim my belief in the Adam-God doctrine, as well as my belief that Plural Marriage really is a requirement for Exaltation, I would never be surprised to be called into a court.
To answer the question, "What can you do to change things," I don't know of anything at all that a human can do to change things. The only thing I can change is my own circumstances, attitudes, and actions. When Heavenly Father has determined that the Church has gone deep enough into Apostasy, He will do something about it. Since it is His Church, I willingly leave it up to Him.
| Rather off topic, but... I don't remember seeing that particular question. I am not really paying close attention to this topic anymore. I just saw that link on a mailing list and thought it would fit here. |
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| QUOTE (Nighthawk) |
| When Heavenly Father has determined that the Church has gone deep enough into Apostasy, He will do something about it. Since it is His Church, I willingly leave it up to Him. |
I must admit that when you threw in your initial findings into this Topic it caused LDS_forever and I to do a lot of research, and for that I thank you, however, I was concerned about your persistence about it - I thought for a moment you were going to live in a plural relationship regardless of Membership or your wife's rejection of it. BUT, I am glad to see that like me you are realizing that regardless to what we think it is up to the Lord to make the change and to formerly also make the change - in other words - this should be brought to the light and accepted - not Discussed in a restricted Forum. In the day it is publicly acclaimed without hindrance then that will be the day we can also consider this.
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| I am not really paying close attention to this topic |
I know, it has been trashed about to all ends, HOWEVER, something still remains, something that I still do not understand and may never in this lifetime simply because of the poor record keeping of the early Church and that is concerning the wives of Joseph and need to marry to those already married by the law and still in that union with the current husbands.
I also do not understand the current Church's position on "hushing it up" as though it never happened. I understand the emphasis on preaching against practicing it now, but not clearing it out from history as was done in the Presidents of the Church manuals (to show a small example).
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JB said:
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| Notice... no name for contact information. Even copyright below is vague. I also did a DNS check and it is not on BYU's server so it is a private cause, but I am sure they disassociated himself with it due to warnings. |
I notice that too. When it was in BYU server, his full name was on now is not even there! Yes BYU quickly disassociated of this whole issue, they claimed they did not know about this and that an information technology staff worker incorrectly assumed that Engebretsen's submission had been approved. How come an Assistant Dean does not know that? Fishy.
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I was reading today something interesting that I also verified in other sources. Pres. Woodruff's excerpts (the one that talks about the Lord will never allow someone to lead us astray, etc) following the Official Declaration 1 (The Manifesto) was "slipped" (if we want to call it that way) in the 1981 edition of the Scriptures without notice or vote from the membership, it was just added but prior to 1981 those statements were NOT there.
Now isn't that interesting? Because not only few people know this and assume to be "binding" and "doctrinal" because it is in the Scriptures but in fact since no vote took place (as it happened with the Official Declaration 2 and sections 137 and 138) then we could well assume that they have no canonical status but they can be seen as just footnotes or "comments" since great changes took place in the 1981 edition of the Scriptures. This means, the whole "doctrine of infallibility" is false.
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I believe that has been Nighthawk's rant for awhile now, but the point is where is the source info? You have to consider that the even the conference that was held to stop plural marriage has also been in dispute (also within this Thread) since it is said that many did not vote or raised their hand in opposition. For me the whole idea is this... if Pres. Hinckley says the Lord is pleased with the Church today then something must be in the right? I do not think we can be held accountable for the manifestos, but those who put them there.
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