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Dbackers:

I believe so too, trying to figure out still why Pres. Hinckley in one of the TV interviews said "it is NOT doctrinal". Just because we are not living the principle at the present time does not mean it is not doctrinal in my opinion.

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True,
Sometimes I think that we as members of the Church as well as everyone else (people in General) have a very limited view on what there actually is to know. We often look at our very limited mortal existence in our very limited time period, and our own little part of the world and forget that there is things out side of mortality, time and place that we just do not understand. Things that do not fit (like Plural Marriage) in the here and now are often disregarded as trivial. I suppose we do this so that we are not overwhelmed with things we just do not understand.

Rather off topic, but... QUOTE How come you have not invited her here to participate? I have talked to her about the forum sometimes when we are in bed and the kids are asleep. We talk about the varying views from members from all over the world and from every political background. She has really enjoyed that topics and ideas and has given me suggestions on how to reply. I invited her to get on, but she said "when do I have time with 4 and a half kids?" I hope she has the opportunity sometime.

I have talked to her about the forum sometimes when we are in bed and the kids are asleep. We talk about the varying views from members from all over the world and from every political background. She has really enjoyed that topics and ideas and has given me suggestions on how to reply.
I invited her to get on, but she said "when do I have time with 4 and a half kids?"
I hope she has the opportunity sometime.

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There were some underlying questions with regards to early practices that we have not been able to ascertain a correct answer to, have you checked out the beginnings and middle of the Thread?

Rather off topic, but... Tell your wife about LDS_forever, she home schools a special needs hyper child, sees about our 15 month old and is also 4 months along. Your wife can just pop in when the kids are at school, she does not have to be here as much as you.

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I have now finely read the entire topic and it was eye opening.

As to President Hinkley's saying:

when reading the other part of the transcript I noticed that Larry King was talking about the Fundamentalist LDS Church practicing Polygamy. He asked if the Church should come out more strongly against these groups that practice polygamy.
President Hinkley was saying that splinter groups are not, in any way, affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we can on no way support their practices. He stated that this was a Legal matter.

This is my interpretation of what President Hinkley was saying:

Plural Marriage not authorized by God as practiced by apostate groups that existed in the Western United States

again, Practicing Plural Marriage outside of the time and the place, the lord has allowed it. This did not prohibit the practice when approved of the by the Lord nor in the proper way.

We try to follow the law as a Church as much as possible.

This is why the Prophet said:

I happen to agree with Hinkley on this. Plural Marriage is not Doctrinal outside of the proper bounds with which the lord has set. Reading the Book of Mormon I see where this doctrine

could conflict with the properly instituted doctrine of eternal increase and Plural Marriage. But the truth is that there is no contradiction between these two. One proscription (having only one wife) was for a certain time and place and one commandment (plural marriage) was for another.

Rather off topic, but... I will invite her again. We live in Rural Southern Arizona and access to the Internet can only come through Satellite (I travel 30 miles to work where I have Internet access). This costs around 55 Dollars in our area, and we haven't been able to afford it for our home. Occasionally we visit her mom and we get on it there.

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What opened your eyes?

As for your take on Pres. Hinckley's words I can see that as plausible, however I cannot remember if I saw that interview to see if by his tone and body language if that is truly what he was saying (singling out the Fundamentalists) as opposed to speaking about Polygamy as a whole.

Rather off topic, but... $55 for satellite internet is cheap for us. Currently my bill for wireless is about $68 (not satellite, just wireless modem) and I only get speeds that are around dial-up (see the Thread I have called 'Trinidad Internet Services'). I also just took on cable internet to get working speeds so that puts my bill up to about $100 a month!

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Interesting take Dbackers, personally I do not think he was talking specifically about the Fundamentalist LDS but the doctrine of Plural Marriage itself. I am not surprised though, the current Church leadership and the Church as a whole is absolutely opposed to the slightest idea, notion, or even consideration about Plural Marriage, I will go further and say that I feel they want to push it away so much from us (LDS Church) as like it was some sort of "mistake" in the past that brings embarrassment to the good name of our Church. Hence, Pres. Hinckley's statements in the past about it "let's close the book of the past".

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[Eyeopeners
Marriage to women who have been previously married under the covenant.
President Young taking wives that were once Joseph's.
The idea that marriages could be for eternity but not for time.
The idea Joseph Smith may have been sealed to Men(This does not bother me as a Son may be sealed to a Father, and in this context then this makes sense.).
Children coming from Joseph Smith's Plural Wives (I do not know why this fact did not register, but it makes sense)

As to President Hinkley I do not remember either his tone or body language. But some of the words used by Hinkley, I believe, limits the question to Fundamentalists.

I believe he was trying to separate the apostate individuals who continued to practice polygamy, and the Church of Christ that no longer practiced it.

JB

Could the Gospel be taken to all the world, as prophesied, if Polygamy was still practiced by the Church? I am not sure. If the laws of the land were changed would those who practice polygamy be as marginalized as those who enter a Homosexual Marriage (which according to polls, they are marginalized)?

And, as LDS has pointed out, Members of the Church would have a difficult time with actually following this doctrine. We have such a hard time understanding the doctrine in principle, that to put it into practice seems a long way off.

Rather off topic, but... I guess I am sometimes provincial in my thinking. In the larger cities of Tucson and Phoenix high speed can is now about 25 dollars. We just have other things we are trying to work through now and internet has not been something we could fit into the Budget.

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Interesting question. The easy answer would be "why not?", but to get more detailed I will give an instance of a religion that openly practices Plural Marriage and yet their growth is in the millions: Islam. They do not have the whole truth yet they grow. Another take, the Church in early times grew even while practicing... so what is the problem really? The problem in my mind as you mentioned, and as I mentioned before - worthiness and acceptance. The Members of today cannot handle the slightest doctrine that seems to deviate from secular Christian thinking let alone Plural Marriage.

Rather off topic, but... I understand, I can see why you said you were going to Donate and then went silent, hope it was not a struggle. Also, if you think it was worth it, please do post some feedback in the LDS Mature Thread within the LDS Deep Doctrine Board, so others can see what they miss. Thanks much.