I notice that as my years start to increase, the days seem shorter. With years wisdom usually come and I guess this is true for eternity as well. Having a concept of time really limits us as we see so much based on here and now - hence 'tomorrow we die' attitude because they think all will be over with 'just a few strokes'. Not so we are thought, man must make amends for everything he has not repented of... even if it takes an eternity!
There are so many references in the scriptures to the Lord saying, "behold I come quickly" and "in the blink of an eye" and other time metaphors. I wonder these days if the passage of time is speeding up, not just in my sense of time, but if it's truly moving faster?
I've felt an urgency in regard to the gospel for a couple of years now. That I need to know as much as possible, that I need to be involved as much as I can, and that my spiritual progression is a hugely important thing. I feel like time is slipping through my fingers...
IMO
Roz
(But maybe I'm just getting old...)
JB said:
"...there is no concept of time in the eternities....What are your feelings about time?"
Hmmm, just an incidental nit, but I think there is a concept of time in the eternities, perhaps just not earth-centric, I.e. reference explanations to the hydrocephalus in the Book of Abraham (Fac. #2) and the following:
Abr. 3:4
4 Â And the Lord said unto me, by the Urim and Thummim, that Kolob was after the manner of the Lord, according to its times and seasons in the revolutions thereof; that one revolution was a day unto the Lord, after his manner of reckoning, it being one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest. Â This is the reckoning of the Lord's time, according to the reckoning of Kolob.
Abr. 3:9
9 Â And thus there shall be the reckoning of the time of one planet above another, until thou come nigh unto Kolob, which Kolob is after the reckoning of the Lord's time; which Kolob is set nigh unto the throne of God, to govern all those planets which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest.
Abr. 5:13
13 Â But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the time that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. Â Now I, Â Abraham, saw that it was after the Lord's time, which was after the time of Kolob; for as yet the Gods had not appointed unto Adam his reckoning.
At any rate, my thoughts on time? I think the concept of time does/will exist in eternity, perhaps in a reconceptualized context akin to emerging notions about quantum relativity (Blackwell, 2002)....Eternity will certainly be a long time! =)
Life is too short and eternity is too long to not strive for happiness. I like to say that. I think that as latter-day saints our concept of time is very different because we do think of things in an eternal perspective.
I love the thought that we are preparing for eternity right now. The reality is that the things we do now affect our eternal progression in ways that we can only imagine. I look forward to the day that I get married in the Temple for time and all eternity knowing that I am doing so many things for my family to help them and to have them help me move towards that goal of returning to the Celestial Kingdom.
Time - is about perspective.
FYI, I like some of nephiproject's thoughts about the nature of eternity and the ever-present "now"....If there are any physics people in here, I would be interested in having a discussion on these concepts as they may relate (or not) to Finkelstein's (1996) work....In addition, I'd especially like understand more about the notion of "subtle matter"....thx! Hmmm, should I open another discussion thread? How does one do that? (and how does one get into chat?) THX!
Just fyi, Skousen (1997), "Earth in the Beginning" has some interesting comments on the subject under discussion here. On p. 14, he references the following scriptures; Alma 40:8; Abraham 3:1-9; D&C 77:12, 88:73; and D&C 130:4-5, in discussing the Lord's concept of time....Incidentally, I was just curious if anyone who has read this book might care to share their thoughts about it? THX!
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JB said: "...there is no concept of time in the eternities....What are your feelings about time?" Hmmm, just an incidental nit, but I think there is a concept of time in the eternities, perhaps just not earth-centric, I.e. reference explanations to the hypocephalus in the Book of Abraham (Fac. #2) and the following: |
Rather off topic, but... Mormonboy, please look at the help and Welcome board where you will find all the answers to the questions you keep asking on other people's threads. Thanks. |
There is some secular knowledge to support this "no concept of time" thing. It may be the key to communication with god as well.
They are called tachyons.
Source 4
And beings as how they move much faster than light there are theories of time travel behind it.
God exists in all times and everywhere.
Correction link.
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Edited: Quasar on 24th Aug, 2008 - 10:53pm