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[quote]Well, it doesn't happen this in this little corner of the world. I have met several members who were excommunicated and they talk in classes by preaching others what to do, etc. [/quote]

This doesn't surprise me, I just haven't personally seen it.  Pride goes with all sorts of sin.  Until the pride is broken, the repentance can't really start.

[quote]She didn't speak up in church classes, but she never hesitated to tell people that she thought the church was wrong for excommunicating her.[/quote]

Again, there is an element of pride here.  There is also a strong element of self-justification.

Back to my own experience - I knew that I was wrong, I knew that I was rebellious, and I knew that it was all my own fault.  I did not take pride in my actions, I did not try to justify them.  Essentially, I gave in to a host of addictions, and wallowed in them for a couple of years.

Come to think of it, I have a cousin who was excommunicant for decades.  She also blamed the Church, and created very harsh feelings in her children.  She wouldn't walk through the doors of a church building until she became humble and started to repent.

NightHawk

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This is something that you need to discuss with the Bishop, the reasons maybe numerous and far reaching as well as simple, you will not find an answer to this here. [/quote]

You missed the point of my message.  The information about my son was just background information and no answers were being sought for it.  I know why he has these restrictions place on him, and as for how long he will have these restrictions.... I realize that no one here can answer that.

However, I did find it interesting that he could have those restrictions and yet still be allowed to teach his Priest's class.

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Now that is humorous, (although sad) I have never heard that as an excuse for that kind of transgression. I wonder, when she voiced her opinion so openly did anyone try to correct her openly? If not, did anyone at least talk to her one on one, or notify the Bishop about how she felt?[/quote]

I don't  know if others talked to her, though I suspect they did.  As I said, she didn't express these opinions in a class situation.  She usually did express them one on one.  I know when she told me her thoughts I tried to correct her.  She couldn't seem to understand what I was trying to tell her.  As for notifying the bishop... well... I'm not one of those who goes running to the bishop with information on people like that.  However, she was eventually rebaptised.

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[quote] You missed the point of my message.[/quote]
I believe I did, but because that has no relation to disfellowshipped or excommunicated members your curiosity  about why the bishop restricts your son to not administer but yet still treach can only be answered by him, understand?

[quote]I'm not one of those who goes running to the bishop with information on people like that.[/quote]
One of those? All you have to do is suggest to the Sister that she should speak to the Bishop, if she does not want to  maybe you can suggest that she give you permission to let the Bishop know he should meet with her. Which is better... try to help her get it resolved or let it linger? It is the Bishop that would have imposed restrictions on her, so only he can help really.

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[quote]We have a young man in our ward right now who left for his mission, was gone for a couple of weeks, then came back and it was announced that he was excommunicated.  [/quote]

Announced? you mean in Sacrament Meeting??? very, very unusual. Actually I never heard any kind of annoucement before of somebody being excommunicated. And I know of a guy in my ward in Argentina who is the exactly same example you mentioned and the leaders didn't say anything about it to the members.

[quote]However, I did find it interesting that he could have those restrictions and yet still be allowed to teach his Priest's class. [/quote]

That's a great question to ask the Bishop.

[quote]I'm not one of those who goes running to the bishop with information on people like that[/quote]

Don't take it personal but sometimes I feel members think is wrong to let the Bishop know when a brother or a sister is struggling with something...isnt better she can discuss this issue with her spiritual leader than make a fool of herself? I don't know, I think about caring about our brothers and sisters and she seems like somebody who needs to get some points clear and is the Bishop's work and our work to help her out. If you do it with the right intentions of helping someone, there is nothing wrong with it....

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Announced? you mean in Sacrament Meeting??? very, very unusual. [/quote]

It wasn't announced in Sacrament Meeting.  It was announced in Priesthood Meeting.  I guess they wait until the boys have left and then announce it to the Melchezedik (sp?) priesthood holders.  I guess that's where they usually announce these kinds of things.  My husband then told me about it.

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That's a great question to ask the Bishop.[/quote]

(Referring to my son's restrictions)

Apparently it's ok with the bishop because he knows my son is scheduled to teach and he hasn't told my son that he can't teach.  I guess it's different because no formal action has been taken against him as far as disfellowship or excommunication.  But I guess we can't discuss this here, so we won't.

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Don't take it personal but sometimes I feel members think is wrong to let the Bishop know when a brother or a sister is struggling with something...isnt better she can discuss this issue with her spiritual leader than make a fool of herself? I don't know, I think about caring about our brothers and sisters and she seems like somebody who needs to get some points clear and is the Bishop's work and our work to help her out. If you do it with the right intentions of helping someone, there is nothing wrong with it....[/quote]

I actually started another thread regarding this question because I thought it would be an interesting topic to pursue. 8)

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[quote]It wasn't announced in Sacrament Meeting.  It was announced in Priesthood Meeting.  I guess they wait until the boys have left and then announce it to the Melchezedik (sp?) priesthood holders.  I guess that's where they usually announce these kinds of things.  My husband then told me about it. [/quote]

I have never heard of it before. All I know is that only the leaders of the Church (Branch Presidency members, Stake Presidency and I supposed Elder's Quorum President) are the ones who know who is excommunicated and who is not. I never heard of it being announced but maybe our brothers here can let us know if this is a commom practise or not.

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[quote]maybe our brothers here can let us know if this is a commom practise or not.[/quote]

It used to be.  It was stopped quite a while ago (a couple of decades), except for specific cases.  I am not sure what all of those cases are, but they do include times when the transgression is very public, or involves stake leaders.  At least I think these are the types of cases.

I haven't been present for such an announcement in 30 years.

NightHawk

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[quote] I have never heard of it before. All I know is that only the leaders of the Church (Branch Presidency members, Stake Presidency and I supposed Elder's Quorum President) are the ones who know who is excommunicated and who is not.[/quote]
It the person is a predator then it can be announced to protect the 'innocent'. We have done it before.