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Tena, I understand how you feel because I feel the same way. I cannot even think about the idea of somebody being in death row and being innocent! Actually many times I wonder, how many innocent people are behind bars? I'm sure we may be amazed of the number. I have mixed feelings about death penalty, but I do know is a horrible thing, to kill somebody because they killed another person, it gives me chills. But I do understand if I was the family of the victim, I will want the person to pay for the murder with his/her own life. No doubt about it.

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DEATH FOR CHILD MOLESTERS WHO KILL?

A state lawmaker wants to do away with sentencing hearings for those convicted of molesting and then killing a child - and automatically condemn them to die.
Ref. https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C3949%2C%2C00.html

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In my mind's eye this is not so complex. I am not in favor of the death penalty. Jails in times past were not secure, so killing for crimes was a more efficient way of ensuring offenders did not repeat. Not so any more.

I am not one to assume the authority of life and death, I feel that that should be reserved for Heavenly Father. Who am I to judge another's worth? I am not the Judge.

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I agree with you "Dude" about the jails being more secure these days. I think the problem is that for many a sentence of life in prison, doesn't really mean life in prison. It just means "a long time." Long being a relative term.

If more places had life without the possibility of parole then I see no reason for an execution to take place. The only justification I can see is revenge. I don't think it is my place to seek revenge.

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I feel the need for putting my two cents in.

Ok, someone here stated the need to repent ok? Part of repentance is bringing restitution or restoring that which was damaged. How is it that a murder is going to restore the life that was taken? Can't have complete repentance there. Hence the need for the death Penalty it is that the life of the convicted has been forfeited for the life that was taken by murder.

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Interesting comments,
First the issue of Nephi' s slaying of Laban. I struggle with this story. Nephi says that the Lord tells him that "it is better for one to die then for a whole nation to dwindle in unbelief." This is interesting to me because John (I believe) says that Ciaphus the High Priest says the same thing about Christ's death. Yet John puts it in a context of it being wrong. So then in a dark way, can we say that Laban then is a type of Christ?
Nephi is from an Old Testament view, and that must be in perspective, because they did not have the understanding of God as we do today.(remember, Christ came to reveal to us who God is. If he has been completly revealed to us, then there would be no need for him to do so.)
As far as the Old Testament is concerned, we as LDS and christians have an advantage, we have Christ. We should look at the Old treatment through the lense of Christ's teachings, and atonement. We should be able to find and feel comfortable when we see things taught in the old testament that do not fit with Christ's teachings. We should be able to identify it understand why that difference is their. The act of violence is one such idea. christ taught no violence. He offered a third option to it. Instead of fleeing and fighting, he offered us to stand up directly with nonviolence. Hense, turn the other cheek, give a man your 2 cloaks, and go the extra mile. All such instances do not flee from the situation, but expose the sin, of the offender and make him feel uncomfortable. Thus allowing him to see his sin, to lead him to repentance.
I do not see anywhere in the Gospel's as to where violence is accpted whether in war, or capital punishment.
It is interesting that in the U.S. the states who deal out the most capital punishment are the states who supported slavery and segregation. I do not know what that means but it is a interesting correlation since most capital punishments are against minorities based on race.
Secondly as LDS we value life. How many have died innocently on death row for us to kill the guilty. How can we justify 1 innocent death for the deaths of the guilty. Do we agree then that we should make a sacrifice then to kill the guilty. We are back to the question posed of Nephi and ultimitly of Christ. Abraham went to sacrifice his son, and the Lord told him No. Can we justify ourselves by saying "are we our brothers keeper?" then we are using the logic of Cain.
I am always concerned when I see those who want to extract vengeance on another. Do we see christ ever do such things? "Forgive them father for they know not what they do."

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Lethal injection would be choice of 75 percent of Utahns

There are only four other death row inmates who, if executed, will have to make the choice between firing squad and lethal injection. Those men - Troy Kell, Ron Lafferty, Taberon Dave Honie and Ralph Menzies - all asked to die by firing squad when they were sentenced but have the option to request lethal injection instead. Ref. Source 5

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Comments: And why would the church opt for becoming neutral in anything pertaining to the laws that we must live with?

It's either right or wrong... But no comment?

You don't think past prophets have spoken out in regard to laws that affect the people subject to them?

We are not currently living under the thumb of Roman domination, so we shouldn't have any kind of official allegiance to civil laws?

To not voice ones opinion on such matters is to adopt the lesser cause.

Personally I think we need the Death Penalty every bit as much as the people did during the days of Moses.

I get so sick of hearing people say that law was based in vengeance ie "an eye for an eye" and we are supposed to be "above" all that now. It is mearly stating that you must melt out a just punishment to fit the crime.

Putting someone to death for having shed innocent blood themselves, (cold blooded murder), is not being judgmental. It is ridding society of it's burden.

According to the Doctrine of Atonement, Cold blooded murder is something not covered under it's statutes and is the reason that blood must answer with blood.

And I'm sure the reason it's not covered is because there is no repentant soul in the person capable of doing that.

They place themselves beyond celestial redemption.

So what's with all this mamby pamby indecision concerning a very simple issue?