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Name: KJ
Comments: Hi all. I love reading the posts on here and never post myself but recently my views on this subject have changed and I would just like to put them to you...(sorry if it's already been said)
At first I agreed with the war, when initially ridding irag of Saddam Hussein, so to speak. However as time went on I thought there were many underlying things that I couldn't get my head around and my views began to change and I didn't agree with it. However, the more I have thought about this from an LDS angle I have thought that although the cause of the war wasn't righteous and I'm not saying Heavenly Father made it happen but maybe Heavenly Father will use this to his advantage and maybe this is a way in which Christianity can be introduced to people who wouldn't get the opportunity in that country.
Just a thought...
KJ
Did you know that Hitler burned his own palace and blamed it on the russians so that he could have the people's support for his Russian war campaign. Old tactics.
Hmmmmm...9-11. Our economy is bust and we are still at it. Our dollar is going down.
What did Iraq have to do with 9-11? What about all those weapons of mass destruction.
At this point in the history of the world, can we really expect there not to be wars. We can fight to reduce War in general, but there will be Wars and Rumours of Wars until the end. There will not not be peace regardless if liberals or conservatives are running the country.
This being said I have no idea what God thinks about the Iraq War and I am pretty sure that no one really has any idea if God thinks this is a moral or immoral War. It would be somewhat presumptuous of me to try to explain God's views on a particular conflict, but I can express my own spiritual views. There are righteous people on both sides have insisted that they know that God either supports one side or the other or thinks that everyone involved is pure evil.
I think there are some very good individuals within the Church that have taken both sides, and that is why I am not sure that we can know if this is one of those wars that Moroni spoke of for defence of freedom
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Alma 46: 12, 16, 35 12 And it came to pass that he rent his coat; and he took a piece thereof, and wrote upon it-In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children-and he fastened it upon the end of a pole. |
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Alma 35:15 Now Alma, being grieved for the iniquity of his people, yea for the wars, and the bloodsheds, and the contentions which were among them; and having been to declare the word, or sent to declare the word, among all the people in every city; and seeing that the hearts of the people began to wax hard, and that they began to be offended because of the strictness of the word, his heart was exceedingly sorrowful. |
Joe public do you think that invading a country and forcing christianity down peoples' throats is the christ like thing to do?
Just like the spanish inquisition here in this hemisphere. Remember the great Apostacy. Where the Roman catholic church ran down and destroyed the original saints.
That is not the way to spread christianity. It is not christianity and nothing good will come of it.
I supported it when it first started. I feel like I have been tricked and manipulated. Edited: Quasar on 27th Aug, 2008 - 5:27am
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At this point in the history of the world, can we really expect there not to be wars. We can fight to reduce War in general, but there will be Wars and Rumours of Wars until the end. There will not not be peace regardless if liberals or conservatives are running the country. |
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The fact that Congress is not permitted under the Constitution to transfer the war power to a president was ignored. Only Congress can declare war, if we were inclined to follow the rule of law. To add insult to injury, HJ RES 114 cited United Nations resolutions as justifications for the war. Ignoring the Constitution while using the UN to justify the war showed callous disregard for the restraints carefully written in the Constitution. The authors deliberately wanted to make war difficult to enter without legislative debate, and they purposely kept the responsibility out of the hands of the executive branch. Surely they never dreamed an international government would have influence over our foreign policy or tell us when we should enter into armed conflict. |
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From Joseph F. Smith, Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed. (1939) (and from the teaching manual "Teachings of Presidents of the Church":
Roz |
Are we really asking what G-d thinks of the War in Iraq? My goodness...it was a disgusting thing to do and even though I may understand their reasoning for doing it doesnt mean it was acceptable you know what am I saying? That scripture of Captain Moroni have a context and I don't think this particular case fit that story.
Some things that the Lord has taught us about war: