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Is there such a thing as "Good Magic"? Is all magic from the devil? What are your thoughts?
11th Dec, 2009 - 2:32pm / Post ID: #

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international QUOTE (Thomaslee @ 10-Dec 09, 3:28 AM)
Now I am not saying that any of the above examples are not from Satan, just that I am uncertain that we should categorize all other "powers" as from Satan.

If not all of these powers are from Satan are you implying they're from G-d? Because we know there are only two sides here you know what am I saying?



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11th Dec, 2009 - 11:34pm / Post ID: #

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I feel that I shouldn't cast a judgment on what is and is not from Satan, and be open to the possibility of other, though lesser, powers then God's that isn't then automatically from Satan. All I know is that there are good people who use other "powers", and I know for a fact they haven't given into or consorted with Satan, anymore then Hindu or Jewish do.
I feel that there could be enough evidence to cast doubt to the idea all "power" comes from either Satan or God. Could power not also come from within us?



12th Dec, 2009 - 12:27am / Post ID: #

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international QUOTE (Thomaslee @ 11-Dec 09, 11:34 PM)
I feel that there could be enough evidence to cast doubt to the idea all "power" comes from either Satan or God. Could power not also come from within us?

We're not gods so I don't know how we can possibly have "powers". We were giving gifts and talents by G-d and the power you're referring to (as I said before) can only have two sources: It is either G-d or Satan. We're not gods to ourselves.



12th Dec, 2009 - 12:39am / Post ID: #

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I can see this isn't going anywhere, guess I"m just not communicating my thoughts well enough for them to be understood. Even if the world is as black and white as you think, I feel we should be careful how we judge ideas or traits that others may use.

Reconcile Edited: Thomaslee on 12th Dec, 2009 - 12:39am



12th Dec, 2009 - 12:42am / Post ID: #

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Well, just try answering where are these powers coming from? (in your opinion) they must come from somewhere. Do I believe there are people who have special abilities or gifts? You betcha.



Post Date: 12th Dec, 2009 - 10:59am / Post ID: #

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Comments: I have had some of the most honorable, honest, and genuinely good people tell me stories of "gifts" they have experienced in their lives. Many of these people are not Mormon and yet may possess what seem almost miraculous or "magical" gifts. They have used in helping others, in their families, or just kept the experiences as quiet knowledge to themselves. Who are we as mortals to judge what are the gifts of the spirit any may develop. The gifts are not exclusive to Mormons, the scriptures teach that clearly. If one seeks the spirit they can or should be able to distinguish what are good gifts. We all developed gifts in our pre-existance and brought them with us. If one seeks maybe one can work with ones we were born with or develop the best gifts during our short lives. Remember gifts can be eternal.

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Post Date: 23rd Dec, 2009 - 6:43pm / Post ID: #

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When in doubt, read the scriptures.

How hard can that be.

Moroni said that every good gift comes from Christ.

Mormon said when he was a child that people fell away from the true faith and started relying on things such as magic.

25th Dec, 2009 - 6:56am / Post ID: #

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Putting my two cents in. I personally do not believe in "black" or "white" magic. The word magic is usually used to help name actions that we cannot explain in rational terms. I do believe that Satan, if allowed, can have control of certain situations. When Satan takes over people tend to class any unexplainable actions as magic, usually black. "White magic" is nothing more than answered prayers within groups of people who deny either the presence or authority of God. I do believe that faith and prayers can work miracles, even with those who do not belong to the church. The difference lies in the authority that LDS members have to perform specific miracles with the direct authority of God. Think of it, if you will, as a power boost for answers to prayer.
Understanding that there are only two sources of power, God and Satan, should dispel the ideas of any type of magic. If the action is dark, uneasy, violent or unnatural it is not from God and must be from Satan, no matter the outcome. Satan will try to mimic God's miracles in an attempt to misguide people, so the outcome will appear to be good. If the action conveys peace, light, is of "good report and noteworthy" it is from God. Just my thoughts. Merry Christmas my friends.



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