[quote]Well here is a hint for you... if the Prophet talks about it, its most likely because we are not doing it in the world. It is a wrold wide problem. I attribute it to having a lay ministry. People are not being paid, so their only conviction to do it is their testimony which might in itself be weak.[/quote]
Then those people should be working on gaining a more sure foundation, I actually found more disinterest from people who are paid to be ministers...
[quote]For instance I am sure you have heard about the Doctrine of Plural Marriage which might have taken some getting used to? In the first instance I am sure you thought that it could not be that marriage to more woman was a thing of God (...but that is another topic).
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Actually the hardest thing to accept about that doctrine is that it is no longet practiced by the church... I mean the scriptures have been pretty plain about this... Almost all of the OT Patriarchs had more than one wife, in the Book of Isaiah (1:4) and in Second Nephi (14:1) we are told that "seven women, shall take hold of one man" - Also in modern revelation D&C 132... My thoughts are simple, the Lord decreed it, who am I to question it.
[quote]There are plently of resources... the Spirit, prayer, scriptures, Ensign, the First Presidency Message (this actually gives you some hints and teaching tips)[/quote]
I have been doing these things, and they have helped me gain what knowledge I have on the subject... It would be nice though if there was a "Handbook" for Home/Visiting ...
[quote]and more. I will look for some quotes for you if I can find some...
Here is one about sacrifice...
"The great law for spiritual happiness and progress was stated by the
Master in these words:
" 'If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his
cross, and follow me.
" 'For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose
his life for my sake shall find it.' (Matt. 16:24-25.)
"Opportunities to lose oneself for the good of others present themselves
daily: the mother who serves her children's needs; the father who gives his
time for their instruction; parents who give up worldly pleasure for
quality home life; children who care for their aged parents; home teaching
service; visiting teaching; time for compassionate service; giving comfort
to those who need strength; serving with diligence in Church callings;
community and public service in the interest of preserving our freedoms;
financial donations for tithes, fast offerings, support of missionaries,
welfare, building and temple projects. Truly, the day of sacrifice is not
past."
(Ezra Taft Benson, "This Is a Day of Sacrifice," Ensign, May 1979, 34)
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These are great quotes... Thank you...
[quote]The Church Handbook of Instructions is two parts... the blue or book one which is given to certain Priesthood leaders (usually Bishop, etc) and the red which is given to Auxiliary leaders. Parts of each book are given to members. You should have been given a green and blue handbook. One is Gospel Teaching and the other is Melchizedek Priesthood. If they have not given it to you make sure to ask for it from your Bishop or EQ President.[/quote]
Nope havent gotten any such books... I have the Duties and Responsibilities of the Priesthood A&B (Still reading them), the Teachings of John Taylor, Gospel Principles and the NT Sunday School Students guide.
I may be able to get those books from church distribution though... as well as the Blue and Red books... :D
[quote] I may be able to get those books from church distribution though... as well as the Blue and Red books... [/quote]
These have to be given through your leaders, they are not easy to get and will not be sent just like that.
[quote] Actually the hardest thing to accept about that doctrine is that it is no longet practiced by the church...[/quote]
Well that goes for many other things too. What I meant though is that in the standard six discussions you are not thought about the belief in the doctrine of Plural Marriage. Most times you learn of it through some member talking about it in a class one day.
[quote] Then those people should be working on gaining a more sure foundation[/quote]
Yes, unfortunately easier said than done by the masses.
Just checking - are these the sections you were mentioning...
This one has a picture and it is green...
[quote]"Gospel Teaching and Leadership" section of the Church Handbook of Instructions, Book 2
This is a duplicate of section 16 in the Church Handbook of Instructions, Book 2. For high councilors; counselors and secretaries to stake and ward auxiliary presidents; ward missionaries; stake and ward activities committee members; ward teacher improvement coordinator; assistants and secretaries to high priests group leaders; counselors and secretaries to elders quorum presidents; and teachers, advisers, and instructors. [/quote]
This one has a picture and it is blue...
[quote]"Melchizedek Priesthood" section of the Church Handbook of Instructions, Book 2.
This is a duplicate of section 1 in the Church Handbook of Instructions, Book 2. For high councilors, assistants and secretaries to high priests group leaders, and counselors and secretaries to elders quorum presidents. [/quote]
If those are right then I can order them from Church Distribution... they are listed at a $0.00 price... :D
Wanlorn, yes I think those are the books. You don't have to order it through the Distribution Center (I doubt they will send it through the mail just like that since they're available in every ward) your Priesthood leaders (ask the Bishop) should give you a copy of both handbooks. What calling do you have in Church? they will give you the one according to the calling you hold. Is that right JB@Trinidad?.
Here I research for you some more quotes about Home Teaching:
"My good brethren of the Melchizedek Priesthood and Aaronic Priesthood, home teaching is an inspired program. It is the heart of caring, of loving, of reaching out to the one-both the active and the less active. It is priesthood compassionate service. It is how we express our faith in practical works. It is one of the tests of true discipleship. It is the heart of the activation effort of the Church. It is a calling that helps to fulfill the scriptural injunction "Out of small things proceedeth that which is great" (D&C 64:33). There is no greater Church calling than that of a home teacher. There is no greater Church service rendered to our Father in Heaven's children than the service rendered by a humble, dedicated, committed home teacher.
(Ezra Taft Benson)
"We urge home teachers and visiting teachers to look after their families in a spirit of charity. Home teaching and visiting teaching are vehicles for saving souls when they are done the right way with the right intent."
(Joseph B. Wirthlin)
"Many of you are teachers and priests and have home teaching assignments. You have the authority in this service to be teachers of repentance--that is, to encourage those Latter-day Saints for whom you have some responsibility to live the gospel principles more faithfully. A young man who is a priest comes to my home with his father as a home teacher. He has the opportunity and
the responsibility to encourage me to live more fully the principles of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. (CR Oct 1982)
(Gordon B. Hinckley) Note: And he is the Prophet!
"When the home teachers go into every home and motivate parents, especially fathers, to teach their children by example and verbal teaching, can it be conceived that there will need to be penal institutions, divorce courts, special counseling service? Will there be need for reformatories, courts, and jails? . . .
When home teachers serve their few families as faithfully and as continuously as their bishops do their many families; when home teachers live the commandments near perfection; when they enter into every phase of the life of their charges; then will Satan be bound. . . .
Blessed will be the day when all home teachers, those working on the missionary, genealogical, and the welfare and all programs, become home teachers in every sense of the word, looking after every facet of the lives of their families-spiritual, temporal, financial, moral, marital. That will be the happy day The great umbrella is available. It will protect no one from the storm, the tempest, the danger unless it is spread.
(The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p. 524)
Hope it helps
C7Sparks, I'm sorry that you don't have home teachers either. I could not understand why they will want you in the choir using sign language in the back...: it doesn't make any sense. Does anyone in your ward knows how to use sign language?. If at least one person knows maybe you can give some lessons at Church to those who are interested I personally always wanted to learn sign language. I just love it. Do you have any link on the net you can provide me to see if if can learn it online?
I think Home Teaching and Visiting Teaching is a worldwide problem but I just cannot figure it out why the members lack so much love and care for others?. What it bothers me the most is when they stand in the pulpit and they say how much they love you and blah blah blah and then you know the same person speaking is your Visiting Teacher or Home teacher! it really makes me angry.
[quote]Wanlorn, yes I think those are the books. You don't have to order it through the Distribution Center (I doubt they will send it through the mail just like that since they're available in every ward) your Priesthood leaders (ask the Bishop) should give you a copy of both handbooks.[/quote]
Already ordered them... I'll see the Bishop anyways... I will let you know if they come in the mail though...
[quote]What calling do you have in Church? they will give you the one according to the calling you hold. Is that right JB@Trinidad?. [/quote]
Actually right now I have 3... Home Teacher, Bulletin Coordinator and Activites Committee member...
[quote]Here I research for you some more quotes about Home Teaching: (snip)
Hope it helps [/quote]
Yes, thank you... Every quote helps... I will look in GospeLink for Home Teaching Articles also...
C7Sparks, I wish you were on my Home Teaching List... It sounds like you would be easy to arrange an appointment with...
Even though I do not know sign language I have a portable white board... and over time I am sure that I could learn it... Just for simplicity...
You would think that people would rather long hand write things to make sure that you are spiritually fed and uplifted rather than letting you slip through the cracks...
Have you talked to the EQ President or Bishop about getting a Home Teaching Visit? Maybe they can kick your HT's in the rear or get you someone to come out... I know in my ward there are a couple of guys I can call on if I really need a Melchizidech Priesthood holder for anything...