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Would you be able to post the reference for this statement from Joseph Smith please? Thanks.

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This is the kind of question that winds up causing good members of the Church to search in places they shouldn't for information (I.e. unauthorized sites, anti-mormon sites). The subject in intriguing for sure, but it might serve us all better to strengthen our faith on the principles of the Gospel which HAVE been revealed, and upon which our salvations DOES depend.

Just my take.

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Why do they have to end up going to anti-Mormon sites in order to seek the truth? Why would they have to visit unauthorized sites to get answers to something they have to get a question about? I don't get your point. What is an unauthorized site anyhow? Is this site an authorized site?

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Oh no, not another It Is Not Important For My Salvation... comment, I don't know how many of these I can take at a time.

I don't understand why someone would have a need to visit an anti-mormon site to give his/her opinion on the matter. Once they have a brain, that's all they need to share their point of view.

Rather off topic, but... Just a reminder, this is an internet forum. Not Sunday School.

body Ghosts Holy the What

What is the point of discussing "doctrine" that has yet to be revealed to the Church? The truth hasn't been revealed to us on this subject yet. Even if the Holy Ghost were to confirm your ideas, you'd still have no authority to disseminate your new knowledge. A person can certainly inquire of the Lord for truth and understanding regarding anything, but revelation given to that person on those matters will be for that person only, not for others.

My point was not to say that we CAN'T discuss such things, just that it is very fruitless, and can be dangerous FOR SOME who do not understand how to find and confirm truth.

That was my point: that our time would be better spent seeking understanding on those things that we have already received, the practicing and perfecting of which will prepare us to received greater knowledge in the future (speaking about the members of the Church as a body).

So, when you speak of members having to go to anti-mormon sources to get "truth" regarding matters upon which the Lord has not spoken, that is a complete contradiction. NO person has truthful, authoratative answers to those questions-members, apostates, or otherwise. Anything and everything you could possibly read would have to be considered nothing more than opinion or speculation.

So, to answer your question... No, this site is not an "authorized" site. Nothing said in any of these forums can be considered to be truth, unless it is consistent with the revealed truth we already possess (the standard works).

Is it good for us to discuss the gospel here? Of course.

But whether or not the Holy Ghost will ever receive a body is not part of the Restored Gospel. So when a person comes to this forum and sees all these responses (opinions) on the matter, he will leave unsatisfied. He will leave with more questions that when he came. He may learn some truthful things he didn't know before-things we DO know, which HAVE been revealed-but he will ultimately leave with his original question unanswered. Where else, then, can he go to get his answer? He'll roam the internet searching for something he'll never find. And he just may end up on sites that teach half-truths or just plain lies about the Church and its teachings. Then, who knows?

So, it is my opinion that while we CAN ask such questions our time would be better served discussing the current knowledge we have. Because that will truly strengthen us and bind us together.

Of course, no one here is required to agree with any of what I have said.

What about the Holy Ghost's body?

I would first like to start off by noting that the standard works isn't the only form of revealed truth we have. Actually that was the great thing about the restoration is it showed God speaks, not spake.

--Harvard Divinity Address - Ralph Waldo Emerson

I am of the opinion that God speaks to us, though do agree, that we don't have the authority to spread those 'secrets" He gives us, and actually believe that that it would upset God if we gave those pearls away.

--Brigham Young, May 20, 1860, JD 8:58.

That quote shows that when we learn of sacred things we should keep them to ourselves. With that said I would like to continue on with this subject giving you some pearls I have found in my studies and perhaps a little bit of my own opinion with them.
It has been suggested, many times in this thread that the Holy Ghost could be a calling in which different persons could be called in at different times. Perhaps we could learn more about how the kingdom of God in heaven works by understanding how it works on earth, and maybe that would shed more light upon this idea of the Holy Ghost being a title for a calling.

--D&C 77:2

I would like to suggest that by looking at how the kingdom of God works on earth we could understand more fully how it works in heaven. Maybe we could look at callings in the church? bishop, stake president, apostle, president of the church... and many others. Look at the bishop, is his term limited? What about a stake president or an apostle? I believe the answers would be yes in every case. It is true the duration is different, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that the calling has a beginning and an end. So that leaves me with a question, being under the opinion that the Holy Ghost is a title of a calling; what is the duration of that calling? I tend to agree with Zelph when he wrote:

Running with the above mentioned idea, heaven is organized much like that which is in earth, we could again make some comparisons. How is the our prophets influence is felt by everyone? The church is organized! The same way the ward knows the bishops mind, I.e. the home teachers can spread his mind to everyone. Well I believe, along with Elix, that the Holy Ghost has organized spirits, perhaps our righteous ancestors, that are watching over us and guiding us in this life. It makes sense in connection with what Gunner said,

How can one become God overnight? They must experience and know how to become as God and what better way to practice and gain that experience by watching over those assigned to them, by the person called to act as the Holy Ghost?
Who is the Holy Ghost?

--Joseph Smith(TPJS 190)

In conjunction with the Adam God theory this quote sheds some light on who is who and which dispensation they shall emerge. Therefore, God the Third is called the Holy Ghost or the Witness or Testator. His title as Holy Ghost stems from his calling which was to commence with the advent of Adam and to continue till the beginning of the 7th dispensation, at which time he would make his mortal appearance on Earth (re-read the quote with this in mind.)

One may ask, well then who acts in that calling if he is tabernacled in flesh and bones? When it is remembered that there are more than one spirit personage acting in the capacity of the Holy Ghost, then the problem with the Third member of the Godhead tabernacling in the flesh in the 7th dispensation is done away with, as there are still other spirits left behind to carry on the work of the Holy Ghost.

--Joseph Smith(TPJS 364-365)
This is more evidence that Joseph Smith was that person called and foreordained to preside over the 7th dispensation. His calling was to bear witness of the Father and the Son and to lead worthy recipients into all "Light" and "Truth". Not only so, but he also stood as Head or Master Spirit over all the other spirits who were called to the same ministry. He did exactly what he was foreordained to do in my opinion.
I have written down other quotes, from my studies, that are evidence of this, Nighthawk has paraphrased the information of some of them early on in this tread.

I hope this isnt to much to write in a thread? I feel like my ideas have been paraphrased to keep on topic and to get to the point without have you read a bunch of my written mind.

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I'm sorry about that. I will try to keep on subject in future posts.

Edited: Orchardtiger on 10th Oct, 2008 - 12:30am