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Thanks howe6079, besides I don't think - Page 2 - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 4th Aug, 2005 - 10:55pm

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Post Date: 17th Jan, 2003 - 3:13pm / Post ID: #

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I suppose it's because they haven't had any visitations from Angels of God.  Our modern-day prophets of God have the keys of revelation directly from God.  Angels throughout history have tended to come to relatively illiterate people. Most illiterates depend heavily on their memories - thus the need for Angels to repeat their messages more than once or twice.  In the case of the prophet Mohammed (PBUH), he learned or was granted the right to receive revelation and then continued to receive it throughout his life (over decades). From those revelations, we have the Holy Koran. In the case of JS - he had several visitations from not only Angels, but from heavenly father himself and Jesus, The Christ and he thereafter received the restored keys of the priesthood. Once the keys were restored, he was able to receive direct revelation from God amongst other things. I've always wondered though about the 'personages' of Peter, John and James and others : They could not have been Angels as I have described - they were instead translated, exalted beings it seems. If that is the case, I wonder if they had already been resurrected?  

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17th Jan, 2003 - 3:53pm / Post ID: #

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I've always wondered though about the 'personages' of Peter, John and James and others : They could not have been Angels as I have described - they were instead translated, exalted beings it seems. If that is the case, I wonder if they had already been resurrected?


Researching a bit about this subject, I found that Peter and James were in fact resurrected at the time of the appearance to the Prophet. But John was translated.
If you read John 21:20-23 you will get the idea he was translated (check the footnotes also). You can read also D&C 7.
But this is the interesting thing about all this, that even though the translated beings did not taste death they will be 'resurrected' in a way, not in the same way than normal people do, but they will go through some kind of change in their bodies.
I found this in Mormon Doctrine regarding to Translated Beings ..."It is very evident that such persons never tasted of death; ...never endure the pains of death; that they have undergone a change in their bodies, that they might not suffer pain nor sorrow save it were for the sins of the world".....ministering to whomsoever they will, that they shall change in the twinkling of an eye from mortality to immortality at the Second Coming.
This final change from mortality to immortality is in effect their death, for all men die, even those who are alive when Christ comes, and those who will live during the millennium.
Children shall grow up old until they become old, the Lord says of the millennial era. Old men shall die, but they shall not sleep in the dust, but they shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye" (D & C 63:49-52; 101:23-31)



Post Date: 28th Jan, 2003 - 3:33pm / Post ID: #

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The prophets do share these things but only privately among fatithful saints.  General conference live and televised.  We have been admonished to keep such revelations sacred and only to be shared with those who will not shun or pervert them.  My husband as a missionary has heard the General authourities in meetings to the missionaries bear record of such magnificent manifestations.  At the dedication of the Memphis USA temple  Pres. Faust said that he no longer has faith but a perfect knowledge that Christ lives, just as the brother of Jared knew that Christ lives.  I was there when he said that.  Now what do you think he is implying when he says that?  The brother of Jared saw Christ face to face and no longer had faith but a perfect knowledge.

Post Date: 28th Jan, 2003 - 3:40pm / Post ID: #

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Pres. Heber J. Grant nearly resigned as an apostle because he was the first apostle in the church that had not had a vision or met the savior.  He held through and eventually he had a vision seeing Joseph Smith and his first visionand later became the prophet.  

Post Date: 4th Aug, 2005 - 5:21pm / Post ID: #

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The reason Angels are described with wings in the bible is to show they have authority. Wings represent Authority.

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Pres. Heber J. Grant nearly resigned as an apostle because he was the first apostle in the church that had not had a vision or met the savior.  He held through and eventually he had a vision seeing Joseph Smith and his first visionand later became the prophet.


He may have not seen a visual vision but he heard one Read Gospel Standards "sermons and writings of Heber J. Grant. Pages 193-197.

I don't know where you got your reference but please note your source next time thanks.

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4th Aug, 2005 - 6:53pm / Post ID: #

Angels have wings

First off, there are different classifications of angels - cherubim, seraphim, etc., and books such as the Revelation of St. John specifically portray some as having wings - even specific numbers of wings in different places. However, "angel" is a generic term to describe a heavenly messenger, and as such, Peter, John the Baptist, and others, translated or resurrected or whatever, could be accurately called angels. As far as the descriptions of different angels with wings, as Weisenberger indicated, wings indicate authority, but more than that, wings symbolize ability to move and to act. Wings symbolize power, and every instance where wings are mentioned seems to have a direct connection with power. So when we say Christ will come with healing in His wings, we are saying symbolically that he has ultimate healing power, not that he will appear as a butterfly.



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Post Date: 4th Aug, 2005 - 10:55pm / Post ID: #

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Thanks howe6079, besides I don't think a pair of wings would look good on me. :joking: I can't imagine God creating humans with wings. I'm glad as Latter-Day Saints we understand what is symbolic in the scriptures and what is not. It's all because we have living Prophets and Apostles to keep us on the strait and Narrow.

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