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22nd Apr, 2010 - 6:48pm / Post ID: #

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I personally do not think McConkie told us anything other than his opinion.

I wouldn't says so totally. A lot of what he got was and is widely believed by most especially at his time. Times change and so does the doctrinal views but I guess that's another topic. I wouldn't be surprised about the evolution belief either. We are all become more accepting of the religion of science and secularism.



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Post Date: 7th May, 2010 - 4:57am / Post ID: #

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I think this is an interesting thread. I have an opinion which I would like your input. Seeing as this is NOT prudent to our exaltation I don't really care. But this is what I have come to believe and it satisfies my curiosity enough to move on in life!

First dinosaurs are as old as scientists say they are. Second they did exist before man and third they did live while man was on earth. Now at this point you probably think I am a loon! But let me explain!

First dinosaurs are as old as scientist say they are (I mean w/in reason...defiantly older that 6000-8000 years.) Now according to our scriptures and time-line of man it started 6000 years ago (approx.) But what we must remember is this is when mortal man started. Not when man started. Adam and Eve were in the garden of or Eden for a time we do not know. But I am willing to say it was more than a few days, years or even decades. Satin is good, but it would have taken him many years to get 2 beings as righteous as Adam and Eve to sin. So the time line of earth is much much older than 6000 years!

Second remember God had animals made before man...man was made at the end of the 6th day. And I don't mean they were made at midnight on friday the week of creation (yes saturday was the 7th day). According to the Pearl of Great Price a day on Kolob (which is the governing star in God's creations) is equal to 1000 years our time. So that accounts for some time.

Now third and where this all comes together is here. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden which was celestial (no death and in the presence of God) BUT the Earth was not celestialized. When they sinned they were thrust out of the garden...into our current world, which had death, and the garden was taken off the Earth. So while Adam and Eve were in the garden outside of the garden there was life as normal...life and death. Dinosaurs living and dying.

Now here is my theory on how they became extinct....(don't hold me accountable for this...I can back up everything I have said so far w. Scripture if you want but how the dinosaurs died I cant...sorry). You must remember where earth was (as far a position int eh solar system) while Adam and Eve were in the garden....it was "nigh unto Kolob" and after the fall the Earth too "fell," or rather it moved from its place next to Kolob to where it is now. During this planetary reposition (aka space travel if you will) the Dinosaurs died in the ice age of space travel. (I recognize this brings up many holes and flaws but...who cares it works in my mind)

Let me know what you think, and if you need scriptures to back it up.

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8th May, 2010 - 4:33pm / Post ID: #

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international QUOTE (Woody @ 7-May 10, 4:57 AM)
Satin is good, but it would have taken him many years to get 2 beings as righteous as Adam and Eve to sin.

Adam and Eve didn't sin. They transgressed. They couldn't possibly sin if they didn't know good from evil.

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Now third and where this all comes together is here. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden which was celestial (no death and in the presence of God)


That's not accurate. The Garden of Eden was actually "terrestrial", in the temple we learn more about this. When Adam and Eve are expelled from the Garden they come to our world (Telestial).

Now going back to your theory, I think is a very interesting one and it does make a lot of sense, particularly your point about Kolob.



Post Date: 9th May, 2010 - 8:29pm / Post ID: #

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Liahona:
Thank you for your corrections! Transgress is the correct word, but I am not in agreement that they did not know that eating of the tree was wrong. God clearly told them to do so was wrong. So in that one aspect they would have known right from wrong, but you are right transgress is the right word. Thanks you!

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22nd May, 2010 - 4:05am / Post ID: #

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Just wondering is the topic about where did the dinosaurs come from or about Adam and Eve's transgression?



Post Date: 23rd May, 2010 - 2:08am / Post ID: #

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Thank you Woody and Liahona for your posts. Your thoughts are somewhat similar to my own. Our first parents had a tremendous decision; remain in a Terrestrial state or become mortal and bear offspring. As Eve said:"Were it not for our transgression we would never have seed". We owe much to them and someday I hope to thank them.

As far as pre-flood dinosaurs, I refer you to the Creation Evidence Museum in Glenrose, Texas. They are a christian organization with a wealth of information you may enjoy.
Someday I hope to visit there personally.

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23rd May, 2010 - 3:32am / Post ID: #

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As far as pre-flood dinosaurs, I refer you to the Creation Evidence Museum in Glenrose, Texas.

Now that is not very realistic now is it? Plus how does that further give LDS Doctrine concerning the Topic at hand which I would also like to remind everyone - this Thread is NOT about Adam & Eve. There are Threads for that. Let me repeat the initial Post:

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Okay, I just joined this site ten minutes ago and love it. I've been searching for something like this forever. Anyway, no one has ever given me an answer backed up by doctrine on the subject of dinosaurs. Did they actually live on THIS planet or were they simply leftovers from prior creations, you know, gathering matter unorganized and all. I BELIEVE they were put here solely for fossil fuels so as to help progress the 'work'. Any thoughts on their purpose or origin. The bible has three or four references to 'sea monsters' and such... And they aren't talking about whales! If I'm just blowing hot steam, let me know.



10th Jun, 2010 - 6:39am / Post ID: #

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I found this thread quite fascinating. I had no idea that so many Mormons align themselves with the views of Young-earth Creationists. That surprised me because Mormonism asserts that all existents, including deities, are in the natural realm and it would seem its members would be more open to the findings of science.

I wasn't aware that the Church had ever published any official doctrinal statements taking a stance against evolution, or asserting that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, or that death did not exist before the Fall of Adam and Eve.

To take a position like that of a Young-earth Creationist, one basically has to deny findings in a wide range of scientific fields, such as geology, paleontology, zoology, astronomy, chemistry, and physics. It is quite accepted in all these branches of science that the earth is about 4.6 billion years old, as is the solar system itself. The universe, based on measurements of its expansion rate and the Cosmic Background radiation from the Big Bang, has been dated to 13.7 billion years.

Dinosaurs, which were a dominant group of species on earth for about 200 million years, went extinct about 60 million years ago, most likely due to a catastrophe such as a meteor strike or massive volcanic eruptions, or a combination of both. They simply could not have existed contemporaneously with humans at any time.

I don't know how accepting these findings would threaten a person's faith in any manner, most Catholics and Protestants I know have no difficulty with them whatsoever, and I thought the same was likely true of members of the LDS Church.



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