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trigwf24 I understand your message, but it really does not address the issue because we are talking about what gives man his 'standards', not the ones that come through trial and error. Example, Christians believe that Adam immediately received instruction from God, the teaching Adam received was most likely far greater that we have now. I am sure Adam had vast knowledge of the stars, economics, language, etc. This was his 'standard' it was given to him. You see, nothing is learned by self, it is always given, to be an athiest is to claim that nothing has been given to you from anything other than chance and random events. To me the natural world and the way the earth turns and functions proves this wrong. What makes a lion do what it does? It was given to him what he should do.
Everything we have and are has been given to us by God, we merely take those things which we have been given and adapt them to our own agency. You want proof of that? Before you were born you got your life through your mother. Your mother got life through what she ate. The life of what she ate came from the ground. Where did the ground come from? What decided that there would be just enough mineral deposits to make the food grow? how about just enough oxygen, just enough sunlight? You see, nothing is unto itself, everything comes from something, everything is given to something else, thus... we are Children of God. This earth was given to us by him. The idea that men ran around with Dinosaurs and monkeys. It is an insult really, poor Adam, if they only knew how much of a scholar he was.
JB- had no intentions to insult you or your beliefs, its just my P.O.V. I'm just trying to understand where your coming from. I do not believe that their is a right/wrong when it comes to religion, or that you even need to be affiliated within a religious organization to be considered a decent human being and/or seek salvation. I try to keep an open mind about it. I'm not trying to sway anyone just express other views, nothing personal.
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Everything we have and are has been given to us by God, we merely take those things which we have been given and adapt them to our own agency. Nothing is learned by itself, it is always given. |
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JB- had no intentions to insult you or your beliefs, its just my P.O.V. |
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If nothing is learned by itself then how are we able to adapt to use Gods gifts for our benefit? |
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That doesn't make any sense to me, if we know what we should do why would we change or question it? |
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How do Atheists fit into this picture? |
Offtopic but, Please got to the FAQ board and check the topic for offtopic and quotes so that you can learn how to use them in your posts. |
As far as debating/understanding I have clearly expressed my view on that issue. The whole picking on you was a joke!!!!!
I don't need help making a firm choice, already have one. I don't remember saying I didn't know what life was all about. When I ask you questions in my post its not because I'm lost in the wilderness looking for the light, I'm asking because you contradict yourself and that makes it hard to get a true understanding of where your coming from.
To bad you feel that way about atheists and agnostics. I think it would be hard for someone of faith to acknowledge that their are people in this world that don't need constant guidance and self reassurance, from a higher power,that they are doing the right things. I take pride in the fact that I take responsibility for my life, I don't lay it in the hands of someone else to take care of. Just because atheists and agnostics don't live by your faith, meaning, have an organization that tells us the meaning of life,how you should or shouldn't live, doesn't mean we'll go through life with no understanding of it. That statement seems ludicrous to me. Just because I have something called independent thought doesn't mean that my perspective about how to live life is distorted in anyway.[OFFTOPIC] I went to the FAQ board and an error page came up so I was unable to access it.
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As far as debating/understanding I have clearly expressed my view on that issue. The whole picking on you was a joke! |
Offtopic but, Try the FAQ again, I was coding earlier. |