I do believe that to find the right religion or non, you should find one that you can identify with, that coincides with the laws of society. I have already defined who and what God is. I was just trying to understand the point you were trying to get across with that statement.
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Athiests were brought up without love |
True Atheist
Here is some things that you must believe or have faith in to be a true atheist
There is not God, Super Natural Power, Or Diety
There are not absolutes, neither logical or moral.
-> this also means there can be no laws or logic
There can be no miracles
There is no agnels or demons
There is no heaven, hell, or afterlife
There is no soul
There is no purpose to life
There is no mind or thoughts, not in animal or human
There is no freewill, not in animal or human
I saw this article today, and realized it adds a very ironic twist to this topic - it really indicates that there is nothing to fear about atheism.
God not so dead: Atheism in decline worldwide
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Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground. Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance." As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together. Atheism's other Achilles heel are the acts on inhumanity and lunacy committed in its name. As McGrath relates in Christianity Today: "With time (atheism) turned out to have just as many frauds, psychopaths, and careerists as religion does. ... With Stalin and Madalyn Murray O'Hair, atheism seems to have ended up mimicking the vices of the Spanish Inquisition and the worst televangelists, respectively." |
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John Updike's observation, "Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been is drastic uninterestingness as an intellectual position," appears to become common currency throughout much of the West. The Rev. Paul M. Zulehner, dean of Vienna University's divinity school and one of the world's most distinguished sociologists of religion, told UPI Tuesday: "True atheists in Europe have become an infinitesimally small group. There are not enough of them to be used for sociological research." |
Here's an interesting little project from a once-staunch Christian named Brian Fleming, as quoted from Newsweek:
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Film: Imaginary Friend? June 27 issue - Brian Flemming's most famous project was 2001's "Bat Boy: The Musical," an off-Broadway show based on the tabloid-created bat child. Now he's turned his attention to a figure he claims is equally fictional: Jesus Christ. His new documentary, "The God Who Wasn't There," irreverently lays out the case that Jesus Christ never existed. (One segment's title: "The Bashin' of the Christ.") It played in five states last weekend. Flemming, a Christian fundamentalist turned atheist, plans to take it to 1 million people by the end of the year. |
I had a few very good laughs reading this thread (at the expense of religious people, but that's just my point of view). It seems that there is an unsourmountable obstacle of communication, namely no common starting point, or set of axioms. One party basing all their conclusions on the belief that everything has its ultimate source in God, and the other basing it on the natural laws. How can there ever be an agreement on the state of things, if the very point of departure is different?
However, in my experience, atheists are much more tolerant to those that think (believe) differently. But that, perhaps, is understandable, since they don't hold that by believing in God, one is eternally damned, but only that he's a poor misguided creature that will come to no harm because of it in the end.
Well, now that us religious folks have humored you what thoughts of substance do you bring to the topic?
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It seems that there is an unsourmountable obstacle of communication |
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namely no common starting point |
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However, in my experience, atheists are much more tolerant to those that think (believe) differently |
You wrote in one of the previous posts:
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Everything we have and are has been given to us by God, we merely take those things which we have been given and adapt them to our own agency |
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just recently we had one join here and spammed, swore and insulted everyone just because we believe in God. |
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True Atheist Here is some things that you must believe or have faith in to be a true atheist There is not God, Super Natural Power, Or Diety There are not absolutes, neither logical or moral. -> this also means there can be no laws or logic There can be no miracles There is no agnels or demons There is no heaven, hell, or afterlife There is no soul There is no purpose to life There is no mind or thoughts, not in animal or human There is no freewill, not in animal or human |