There always comes a time when people just do not get the point and you have to get angry to stir emotion. The lord, Jesus Christ showed this in His Father's house.
John 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves,
and the changers of money sitting: 2:15 And when he had made a scourge
of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep,
and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the
tables; 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things
hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
John 2:17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of
thine house hath eaten me up.
The lord was not merely mad, he actually took the time to make a whip before driving them all out, this suggests Him being 'furious'? However the point of this is... when should we get mad? Is there an appropriate time?
This is an important topic, JB. I've seen Bishops, High Councilors, Stake Presidents, use their righteous anger to "cry repentance" unto the Saints in different circumstances. When the rate of tithe paying slips, or when people are not contributing to fast and other offerings, I've seen the Brethren admonish the Saints from the pulpit. I understand recently with our ward boundary changes that a couple of the wards are having a hard time adjusting, and so the leaders repeatedly admonish them to work together and quit causing strife.
Another time may be if you know of an instance of abuse or neglect, particularly of children or the elderly. Get angry, and get help for them.
I'm sure there are more...
Roz
I think we often confuse getting angry with staying angry or getting bitter. The Savior had no problem getting angry, but he was quick to forgive as well.
Anger is a very normal emotion. I think we need to control what we do with our anger, but I think it is o.k. to get angry in any situation that causes such an emotion to rise. It is not o.k. to let that anger control how you behave if it is in a negative manner. In my opinion.
tena said:
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I think we need to control what we do with our anger |
You both made very good points, however this thread is not about forgiveness nor if we should have a grudge or not, this thread is if we should get angry in the first place. What you ladies are focusing on is the aftermath or when the person is mad and how they should act. I would like to focus on if getting angry to the degree that was shown in the first post is justified.
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I would like to focus on if getting angry to the degree that was shown in the first post is justified. |
I disagree and agree with some parts of your post, but it may be that because posting here is limited to a few words it might just be the expression rather than you actual thinking. However, let me ask some questions / make comments if I may to understand you better...
1. You gave some reasons to be mad, I can agree about being mad about the death of a family member and if a friend is doing something bad and we want to 'wake them up' because we care, but I am not sure I understand being angry in general because someone does not live the gospel. To me that is a form of judgement, as who are we to get mad?
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I think we should get mad when someone does something to offend our religious beliefs. |
I don't mean mad, but angry. Semantics, yes.
What I mean is, we shouldn't pretend it is o.k., such as "Live and Let Live."
So, I in some cases was talking about outright anger like when a family member is hurt, and in some cases of righteous anger like when people don't live their lives the way they should.
For example, I don't think pornography is o.k. Period. I don't care whether you are a member of the Church or not. I think I should get angry about it in the sense that I should do whatever I can to prevent it's spread and not simply look the other way or say, "well, they don't have the Gospel in their lives so they don't know any better."
We can turn the other cheek and still be angry. That is what I meant earlier when I said we needed to control what we do with our anger.