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2008 will be coolest year of the decade

Global average for 2008 should come in close to 14.3C, but cooler temperature is not evidence that global warming is slowing, say climate scientists
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But don't look at the cooling trend---just remember that the temperatures are going to really heat up in 2015! It's fun to watch the global warming alarmists deflect every little detail that comes out showing global warming isn't as bad as they say it is---you know, inconvenient small facts like the global temps have cooled in the last decade -- not warmed.
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I just love this!

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So, 2008 will be a third year of cooling temperatures. I guess that is why we are starting to see the issue being called "climate change" now instead of global warming, which is kind of funny because the climate changed prior to industrialization as well. I guess that means unless the temperatures are the same year after year, we will indeed have "climate change".

All that aside, I love the logic here. Should 2008 have been a hotter year than the one previous or the hottest on record, we would say that that is evidence that we are seeing global warming because tempertures increasing means it is getting hotter. I dare say that if the temperature would have been the same as 2008, we would still be talking about the obvious global warming because it is still hotter than average with no obvious trend downwards. What I love is that for the last 3 years we are on a decreasing trend and that apparently is obvious proof of global warming. If you would have at least used the argument that the recent downward trend is not statistically a true trend yet and we need about 2-3 more years of lower temperatures to guaranteed a downward trend, I could accept it. However, to tell me that decreasing temperatures are a obvious sign of how bad it really is just doesnt pass the logic test. As a matter of fact, this would seem like people trying to hold onto a job if I didnt know better...

Oh...and maybe since Bill will be closer to the Whitehouse than in previous years...the trend will change!

Edited: Vincenzo on 15th Dec, 2008 - 9:37am

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That is so funny. The cooling trend is proof that the planet is warming. Ho-kay... sure thing, Mr. Expert Scientist.

Yes, I agree, Vincenzo. Follow the money and see who's benefiting from yelling about the sky falling. Oh, and don't forget to stock up on those carbon credits with your local carbon credit trader. Somebody is going to make a ton of money from that fiasco.

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The real indication of "Global Warming" isn't the air temperature in any given location, except maybe the poles. You have to look at the last 10 YEARS of weather pattern changes, the condition of delicate ecosystems like the coral reefs of the Indian Ocean (which are dying at an alarming rate), populations of animals in extreme environments (like the drastic drop in polar bears which is NOT entirely due to human encroachment) and the weather trends in highly protected environments such as the verdant valley in Antarctica and the valleys of Tibet. The trends over the last ten years in these places are a consistent indication that something is not right.

The earth has gone through long trends of one direction or the other but the warming trends have never been as dramatic or as steep as they have been since the beginning of the industrial age. Humanity IS responsible for this trend!

And "Global Warming" isn't the biggest thing we have to worry about. Closer to home and more to the point for a lot of people should be the decline in honey bee populations. As of this writing science can not explain the disappearance of unaltered, meaning non-Africanized, honey bees all over the world. I don't even know if science understands to what extent bee pollenization is responsible for our food supplies. It isn't just the flowers the bees visit, some pollen becomes airborne because it clings to the bees then spreads to neighboring plants. This is usually referred to as wind pollenization but the bees play a part here, loosening the pollen from the plants so the wind can pick it up. Without bees, we loose nearly all of our food crops. If the global warming trend has an effect on bee populations then we've signed our own death warrant unless science can find a way to get the bees back up to population saturation and KEEP it there.

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Interesting data for a read if you are inclinded. The view of the last few years seems to be changing. Our view does change from year to year on some things...especially the past.

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Changes 'amplify Arctic warming'

Scientists say they now have unambiguous evidence that the warming in the Arctic is accelerating.
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Vincenzo, great article, and very interesting information. If NASA has been adjusting past statistics, that completely blows every model based on their numbers.

I have a co-worker who is avidly "for" global warming, and I made a joke yesterday about how cold it is in our area (we have snow in several places within a 10-mile radius). He started to gear up his argument about localized variations not accounting for overall globalized temperatures... etc etc... I told him, "Easy, easy. Just making a joke here." Sheesh.

Rather off topic, but... Arrwynn, we've been discussing the Honey Bee Colony Collapse Syndrome for a couple of years in this thread: Source 1 It seems more GM foods and pesticides than global warming, in my opinion. But we can discuss that more in the other thread.

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Sea-level threat from melting ice

Scientists fear a giant Antarctic ice shelf threatened by global warming will help spark a rise in sea levels if it collapses. Ref. Source 8