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Arctic to be 'ice-free in summer'

The Arctic Ocean could be largely ice free and open to shipping in the summer in as little as ten years' time, according to one of Britain's top polar specialists. Ref. Source 1

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UK looks to break climate logjam

The UK hopes to bridge divides over tackling climate change at a meeting representing the world's major economies in London. Ref. Source 8

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Global warming, global government?

Anytime you get someone on the program with the title of 'Lord' you know you've got a great guest. Monckton has long been a global warming skeptic, and it would seem he's on the right track given the Earth hasn't warmed since that famed hottest year on record. Monckton stopped Al Gore's movie from being played in UK schools, and now is on a mission to stop the agreements in Copenhagen, which appears to be the basis for establishing global governments. Ref. Source 2

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The Yes Men Pull Off Prank Claiming US Chamber of Commerce Had Changed Its Stance on Climate Change

The business community got a shock on Monday when its leading advocacy group appeared to make a startling announcement. A statement purporting to come from the Chamber of Commerce said the group had dropped its opposition to congressional climate change legislation and would now even support taxing carbon emissions. The news wires quickly picked up the story, and within minutes it was being reported on the websites of outlets including the New York Times and Washington Post. It also made its way onto cable news, including the Fox Business Network. It was all a prank pulled off by the Yes Men.

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PR Executive James Hoggan on "Climate Cover-Up: The Crusade to Deny Global Warming"

The Yes Men aren't the only group accused of pulling off a hoax in the debate over climate change legislation. In August, the American Petroleum Institute-the oil industry's top lobbying group-was found to have asked member oil companies to help recruit employees, retirees and contractors for anti-climate bill rallies around the country. Critics said the API was trying to fake a grassroots movement to give a false impression of widespread public opposition to tackling global warming. Our next guest, James Hoggan, has just published a new book on corporate efforts to mislead the public on human-driven climate change. It's called Climate Cover-Up: The Crusade to Deny Global Warming. Ref. Source 6

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All of this current hysteria concerning "climate change" (notice that it is not global warming anymore) is clearly more about giving certain elite people more power. Read the following to see what the upcoming Copenhagen meetings will be about:

British Lord Monckton who has refuted Al Gore's claims as well as most, if not all, of the global climate change religion, said the following (as reported in the article).

Is this what we really want? To be subject to elites from France, Russia, China, and Washington? To have these people tell us how we must heat our homes, how our toilets should work, and what kinds of products we can make? We will have extremely wealthy individuals, such as George Soros, ensuring that our economy continues to decline and everyone is enjoying the same standard of living as the North Koreans. Except, of course, the elites.

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Methane's role in global warming underestimated
By Dan Vergano, USA TODAY

Greenhouse gas calculations blame carbon dioxide too much for global warming, and methane too little, suggest researchers Thursday. In the journal Science, a team led by Drew Shindell of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York find that chemical interactions between greenhouse gases other than carbon dioxide and industrial aerosols cause more global warming than estimated by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and other efforts. Ref. Source 8

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And so, of course, it can no longer be "global warming" but must be "climate change."

Hang on to your hats... And gloves and mittens....

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I have asked other I know, but would love to put the question here:

Before the last 3-4 years, there was a increasing trend in average temperature that was obviously global warming/greenhouse gases and incited by man (according to the believers).

The last 3-4 years of actually cooling temperatures (not forecasted 3-4 years ago) are evidence that there is global warming/greenhouse gases effects because the temperature isnt getting cold enough (again, by believers). However, to not confuse people with the fact of the cooling temperatures, we will call it climate change.

I can only assume that if the temperature remained constant (very unlikely) from year to year, that would be evidence that man is doing something to the climate as well because it should have trended one way or another naturally, but man stopped it.

SO...

If the temperature goes up...we did it.
If the temperature goes down...we did it.
If the temperature remains the same...we did it.

The question is...

Is there any test or result that would prove that global warming due to greenhouse gases is not happening?

I didnt say climate change because anyone can look at historical average temperature plots and see the climate changes all the time, so I see that moniker as fairly stupid. However, I love the argument wall that the believers have built that basically includes all possible outcomes as proving their point.

Edited: Vincenzo on 4th Nov, 2009 - 11:10am