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QUOTE Hmmm I am not sure I agree with your stance here. Basically because if I follow what the Church has taught about this (as quoted in this thread) I am not under any condemnation that you seem to suggest
Being in good standing with the Church doesn't mean you are a good or believing Mormon.
QUOTE ... And let's face it (and please don't take it wrong) if I have to follow what the Church teaches versus a random guy from the internet then its a non-brainer.
Sure, but the problem for you is I all I have told you is what the Church teaches.
QUOTE It's more I don't support the party or campaign or even contribute financially.
But apparently you support these evils by voting for them.
QUOTE And even if I do, I don't see it in the same way you do.
It is true you don't see it the same way the Church does on Socialism and the welfare state, homosexual marriage, third wave feminism and higher, pedophilia, etc.
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QUOTE Being in good standing with the Church doesn't mean you are a good or believing Mormon.
I know this statement is for SuzieSu but who according to you can determine that? Certainly not you so if you agree with that, what makes you think you can determine who is a good mormon and who isn't based on your political agenda? (anti-Democrat)
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QUOTE I know this statement is for SuzieSu but who according to you can determine that?
1 Corinthians 6:2
QUOTE Certainly not you
Certainly me and ostensibly you as well.
QUOTE so if you agree with that, what makes you think you can determine who is a good mormon and who isn't based on your political agenda? (anti-Democrat)
Political agenda is not a factor. Comparison of political stance with LDS doctrine is a factor.
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Bsspace, I read somewhere you're in a position to ask those TR questions. I'm really hoping you're following the Church instructions to the T with regards to this. Unfortunately, I'm seeing that you seem to put a lot of your own interpretation and thinking OVER what the church teaches with regards to this. I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong but I would say it's risky if you're in a position of authority.
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QUOTE Bsspace, I read somewhere you're in a position to ask those TR questions.
That is correct. I am.
QUOTE I'm really hoping you're following the Church instructions to the T with regards to this.
The instructions are simply to not deviate from the questions unless you know of or discern problems and deviations. We have additional unwritten instruction not to pursue political party specifically but to be on the lookout for those who publicly oppose the Church in doctrine or public policy and to see where their testimony is at or if they misunderstand the doctrine.
QUOTE Unfortunately, I'm seeing that you seem to put a lot of your own interpretation and thinking OVER what the church teaches with regards to this.
Those who ask the questions do have a lot of leeway for interpretation though the questions themselves are limiting in that they are very specific.
"Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?"
Is quite specific don't you think? Essentially an LDS Democrat has to be ignorant of the doctrine or a liar to get past this question without confession or correction.
QUOTE I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong but I would say it's risky if you're in a position of authority.
1 Corinthians 6:2
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Bsspace, I'm glad you follow the guidelines otherwise you will surely be in hot waters if you ever deny a TR to someone just based on their political affiliation.
QUOTE We have additional unwritten instruction not to pursue political party specifically but to be on the lookout for those who publicly oppose the Church in doctrine or public policy and to see where their testimony is at or if they misunderstand the doctrine.
What do you exactly mean by public policy?
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QUOTE Bsspace, I'm glad you follow the guidelines otherwise you will surely be in hot waters if you ever deny a TR to someone just based on their political affiliation.
Not necessarily. I would certainly deny a recommend to anyone publically espousing views contrary to Church teachings. Publically teaching homosexual behavior as normal and not sinful, etc.
Political affiliation makes it easier to identify such people so I would certainly support making political certain political affiliations an automatic rejection for a TR.
After all, voting for and belonging to the USA Democratic Party does come into conflict with the question:
"Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? "
What it means is Democrats have to keep their views to themselves and that in and of itself should tell you how contrary to the LDS Church they are. Why stop there? Go for the root of the evil in my opinion.
QUOTE What do you exactly mean by public policy?
Church support for Prop 8 for example.
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Democrats - not Mitt Romney - have a Mormon problem
A 2011 Gallup poll shows Republicans are more willing to vote for a Mormon for president than Democrats, with 18 percent of Republicans saying they would not be willing to vote for a Mormon as opposed to 27 percent of Democrats. Ref. Source 3
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