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To the LDS democrats of this site, I wish to ask if they are going to elect Clinton again into office or go with a Muslim for President? Will you consider Mitt Romney this time around, or even if it is not him do you honestly see someone worthy to lead this country who is democrat?

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McKay,

I am liberal and I guess a democrat. Yes I will vote For Obama, ( I guess that is the Muslim you are referring too. Although he is not Muslim. And even if he is so what.) I would also probably vote Clinton as well before another Republican. I do not think that Romney being Mormon has any sway on me. I think he is not much better then Bush, and he has waffled on all of his moderate ideas to please a evangelical party. I have been kind of disappointed in him for that reason. His father was a liberal politician and I think he has bulked on a lot of those ideas that his father was for. At this point I would probably take anyone over a republican. I personally like Obama over Clinton.
I guess my question for you is if Romney does not win the nomination I think it will be safe to say that his Mormonism kept him from winning. How will most Mormon's feel that their party discriminated them for their religion? What place then does a Mormon have in the Republican party? I listen to some evangelical political talk shows and Romney's Mormonism is a big big deal. I have politically active Mormon republicans who say if he loses they may very well become disenfranchised with the GOP.

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I guess I thought he was Muslim because of what seemed to be his support for the Rev. Wright and his radical ideas. I'm surprised you would vote for Obama after all that is being said. This reminds me of when Clinton said his spill and he expected everyone to believe that it was not really 'sex', sorry for bringing that word up here, but I wanted to remind you that Obama said that Wright and him had a mentoring relationship.

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I have no problem with what rev. Wright said. that still does not change my support for Obama. For one I have a lot of friends who have weird ideas that I do not agree with, but my relationship with them does not change my views.
Secondly perhaps we should take rev. wright's words seriously. Maybe just maybe he has a point that we should not be quick to dismiss? I hear a lot of trashing him but very little asking why is he so angry and what experiences in his life with race have shaped his values and beliefs? Perhaps his experiences are valid that have formed his world view. I am a mediator and public facilitator and my observation with such conflicts is when people do not legitimized ones experiences or perspectives to a problem you will not resolve them. It seems to me that most of "white America" is not acknowledging the possibility that he may have a valid point or that his experiences are real. Now that is not to say that validation means to agree with him, but it means that there is a possibility that what he sees and experiences is valid. And maybe its my training and experience dealing with public disputes and things like racism in my work that I validate his perspective, and wonder perhaps he really has experienced this. from my professional work I have seen that one way that racism is so strong in this nation and so sublime is the lack of acknowledgments of such black experiences by white America. We tend to reframe the experiences and statements as disruptive and destructive. This is a very subtle tactic you see in conflict to keep power and status quo. When in reality such white rebuttals keeps racism in its sublime strong place. I am not saying that Rev.Wright solutions are right, but our dismissal of them will do more to keep racism strong then to weaken it.
So yes as a LDS I am not shaken nor moved by such things. I think that Obama's exposure to such diverse identities and experiences may make him a better president then others.

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Rather off topic, but... Reverend Wright's has no love for America, so I have no desire to listen to him or understand him regardless of his race. If a man does not love you and tries to reproof and change you what incentive is their to change? Anyway, what right does he have to GodDa#% America? Only God can declare such judgements. As a preacher he should have known better Sure point out our flaws, so that we can correct them, but asking God to Dam us is not a good place to start. In my eyes Reverend Wright is much a destructive influence as David Duke or any Neo nazi group, and I wouldn't give them the time of day either.

Okay there was my rant.
But to the point at hand.
In my opinion, God will not judge us for our political opinions, unless they are in opposition to the commandments and standards that he holds. I suppose it is up to us to try to find out what God's beliefs are and try to bring our beliefs in harmony with his. The Church will not dictate to us what these are, but I believe we will have to face God someday and explain, in small part, how our beliefs helped shape us into what we have become in that distant future.

I suspect there are some political beliefs I will have to answer for and I am sure it may be true for all of us.

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Because of this no love and hate, do we not have an obligation as Christians and Americans to listen to his concern so that we can heal that hate? Perhaps his anger is over his feelings and experiences of being marginalized and not listen too? Perhaps such actions deepens the divide and hate. Do we have some obligation to stop that reciprocation? I believe we do. As I always tell client who are in protracted conflicts like this I always ask them have you ever listened to the other, have you ever asked why they say and feel the things they do? This method brings quick resolve in conflicts.

I do agree though that God is not democrat or republican and we need to keep this in mind as saints. It is easy to get caught up into such things and put god on one side or another.

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No, we do not. When someone comes to me and says "G..dam you", then I typically do not give him the time of day. I have however listened to Reverend Wrights arguments and find most of them ineffective in healing the alleged Rift that exists between portions of Black and White America. Listening to Reverend Wright seems to be the antithesis to the meek, patient, peacemaker that Christians are supposed to be.

I am sure God looks down on us and shakes his head.

Maybe someday we can forgive each other for wrongs of the past and start to live with one another as equals.

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Were any members here hoping that Hillary Clinton won instead of Obama?