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Nature God Question - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 31st Jan, 2005 - 1:42am
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Post Date: 8th Jan, 2004 - 8:12pm / Post ID: #
Nature Of God Question
I couldn't find this topic anywhere, so hopefully this is the first place that it will be found.
I have a question about Father in Heaven. I heard once from an older, smarter man than myself that is supposedly a scriptorian, and quite knowledgeable in lds doctrine. He was on a mission with his wife in Philadelphia, and if I recall correctly, his name was Elder Hawes(haws?sp). I didn't hear it from him directly, but more than a couple of my missionary friends heard it from him.
The question is simple if any of you have heard of this doctrine or not.
Elder Haws presented this:
When God wishes to create something spiritual, for instance our spirit bodies, joined to an intelligence, then he eats something spiritual. If he wishes to created something physical, for instance this earth, or the sun, then he eats something physical. Now the for instances are my own, so maybe I took too much liberty, maybe it is referring to his reproductive creations? Excuse my speech if that was too liberal. I know God doesn't create things out of nothing, but this doctrine has perplexed me for over 3 years now. I haven't heard it from anyone else, nor have I met anyone who has heard about it, or of it. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Post Date: 8th Jan, 2004 - 11:53pm / Post ID: #
Question God Nature
Spirit of Man
Journal of Discourses, Vol.6, p.238, Joseph Smith, June 2, 1839
The spirit of man is not a created being: it existed from eternity, and will exist to eternity. Anything created cannot be eternal; and earth, water, &c, had their existence in an elementary state from eternity. Our Saviour speaks of children and says, "Their angels always stand before my Father." The Father called all spirits before him at the creation of man, and organized them. He (Adam) is the head, and was told to multiply. The keys were first given to him, and by him to others. He will have to give an account of his stewardship, and they to him.
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I haven't heard of this doctrine before and to me it really doesn't make any sense to me. Can you explain the point the Elder was trying to make when he expressed this theory or doctrine? It might help me make sense of what it is you are trying to say here.
Are you saying he ate for example an orange before creating an apple tree and he read scriptures before creating Adam?
If so, what is the point to this? I suppose it could be that if we want to increase or spirituallity we need to "eat" of spiritual things? 
Edited: tenaheff on 9th Jan, 2004 - 4:50pm
Question God Nature
theflash, maybe you can explain more the circumstances when this Elder said that, although I personally think he was just using an allegory. I don't think Heavenly Father needs to 'eat' anything in order to create something physical, he may not even need to use words. He's the almighty God, anything and everything obeys him!.
Question God Nature
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| Of the many magnificent purposes served in the life and ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ, one great aspect of that mission often goes uncelebrated. His followers did not understand it fully at the time, and many in modern Christianity do not grasp it now, but the Savior Himself spoke of it repeatedly and emphatically. It is the grand truth that in all that Jesus came to say and do, including and especially in His atoning suffering and sacrifice, He was showing us who and what God our Eternal Father is like, how completely devoted He is to His children in every age and nation. In word and in deed Jesus was trying to reveal and make personal to us the true nature of His Father, our Father in Heaven. He did this at least in part because then and now all of us need to know God more fully in order to love Him more deeply and obey Him more completely. As both Old and New Testaments declare, "The first of all the commandments is "¦ thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first [and great] commandment." Little wonder then that the Prophet Joseph Smith taught: "It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God." "I want you all to know Him," he said, "and to be familiar with Him." We must have "a correct idea of his "¦ perfections, and attributes," an admiration for 'the excellency of [His] character." Thus the first phrase we utter in the declaration of our faith is, "We believe in God, the Eternal Father." So, emphatically, did Jesus. Even as He acknowledged His own singular role in the divine plan, the Savior nevertheless insisted on this prayerful preamble: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God." After generations of prophets had tried to teach the family of man the will and the way of the Father, usually with little success, God in His ultimate effort to have us know Him, sent to earth His Only Begotten and perfect Son, created in His very likeness and image, to live and serve among mortals in the everyday rigors of life. |
Jeffrey R. Holland, "The Grandeur of God," Ensign, Nov. 2003, 70
https://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll?f=t...;fn=default.htm
| Offtopic but, I apologize for not posting my source here previously. Apparently I was interrupted or something. At any rate, it is updated now. |
Edited: FarSeer on 11th Feb, 2005 - 8:22am TOPIC: Nature Of God Question