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Hi, Robert E.

A few things that really help my family to enjoy eating plants are:

-Buy frozen fruit and make smoothies. All our smoothies include a banana, some OJ, perhaps some ice cubes, and misc frozen fruit only. A few chunks of pineapple add zip too. You can now buy frozen berries, etc. $20 of frozen fruit will go a long way.

-Focus on the hearty foods like wholegrain bread, beans, and potatoes.

-We don't worry if we eat a little meat on occasion. I would prefer less, but at least we are sparing. if you must, consider meat a part of your weekly diet, unless you want to go to a yearly or monthly (holiday/special occasion) basis based on D&C 89. Use cheese unless you are going total vegan (there are health benefits to reducing dairy consumption, but a little is okay, I think).

-We delight in colorful salads, salsas, and vegetable mixes and stir-fries. Gourmet eating, it is!

Let us know how it goes. Eat lots! You will need it without the meat.

J.M.

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You do not have to give up meat entirely, you can eat it less and do it gradually otherwise you will surely miss it.

I cannot remember which Prophet mentioned his consumption of meat was a slice of ham once a month only and Joseph F. Smith even though he never said he was a vegetarian, his wife mentioned he hardly ever ate meat.

Elder Joseph Merril of the Quorum of the Twelve gave a talk about it in 1948:

https://www.ldsveg.org/JosephFMerrillSparingly.htm

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Forever,

That is a very interesting quote. The China Study indicates about 10% as the caloric percentage above which animal product consumption begins to show adverse health effects (diseases of affluence: cancer, heart disease, arthritis, lupus, diabetes) in demographic and clinical studies.

Regarding diabetes, obesity, and general gastrointestinal health, I need to point out that as I understand, refined food (Wonder bread, Mac and cheese, etc.) consumption is also a problem. Vegans and Atkins types agree on that.

J.M.

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I don't think I could ever be vegan (no meat/eggs/dairy/honey/leather). Personally, I think avoiding honey is really over doing it. However I could follow the Word of Wisdom when it comes to eating meat sparingly. Actually, it was pretty easy when I lived in Seattle. Most everyone I knew was vegetarian and there wasn't the pressure to eat meat.

In the scriptures, there is an emphasis on eating meat sparingly and using grains as the staff of life. The Lord says MULTIPLE times to use meat sparingly and to utilize grains. He must really mean it if He has to repeat it.

It is unfortunate that today's society in Utah (where I currently live) puts such an emphasis on hunting and killing and bloody gore, it's just unreal. Ugh. I can't stand it.

Unfortunately I got in a fight with my family over this very topic. They think it's OK to pork down the beef and fat and I read the scriptures to them where it says point blank "to be used sparingly" "times of famine" etc. They just poo-pooed me which really hurt my feelings.

I have a big however. I can't find anywhere where the scriptures says to eat fish sparingly or even non-sparingly for that matter. It is specific about the animals in the fields, trees and air, but I don't see anywhere where is talks about the animals of the water. What could that mean? Sushi is OK? Go for it? Am I over-analyzing it?

Also, more food for thought. The scriptures also say only to eat foods that are in season. What do you think about that?

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Yes, you are kind of over-analyzing it but it's okay. Answering your question, in Doctrine and Covenants 89:12 reads:

If you check your scriptures, you will see the word "flesh" if you check the footnotes it says Genesis 9:3 that reads:

There you go, fishes are obviously included based on this scripture.

For me It means that when foods are in season such as fruits are at the best state to be eaten because they are riped and they are good and healthy for our bodies, did you ever try eating a mango or a banana no fully riped? I have done it and it make you feel very sick, foods must be eaten when they are supposed to be eaten.

Just my two cents.

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Let's go back to the topic of eating meat "sparingly", how do you know you're doing it? Sparingly can mean many things for many people.

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I dont think I'll ever be a vegan but I have started to cut back more on my meat intake ever since watching how animals are treated to keep up with the demand for meat especially chickens and cows.

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Has anyone ever gone a Christmas without eating meat? I've seen a lot of people tempted by the ham and turkey around this time.