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14th Jul, 2011 - 3:27pm / Post ID: #

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No, they are not conservative enough. But, their background is largely conservative (being LDS, they ostensibly believe in doctrine that dovetails with true conservatism). Plus, since all candidates are beholden to their party, the Republican Party generally welcomes conservatism whereas the Democratic Party does not. And in addition, the fight that is of the most importance is in the court appointments. The Democrats have been assimilating the nation with their court appointments and we need to reverse this downward slide into the Dark Ages, both economic and social.


Actually, I was going to say they're way too conservative for my liking, not a good choice for a President. They won't be running the United States of America Ward but a country with people of different views and ways of life. Not sure if they could handle that.



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14th Jul, 2011 - 6:15pm / Post ID: #

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Actually, I was going to say they're way too conservative for my liking, not a good choice for a President. They won't be running the United States of America Ward but a country with people of different views and ways of life. Not sure if they could handle that.


The center does not exist. It's an illusion. Being less conservative only means they may respect conservative view points but not compromise leftwing principles. The real question is who's philosophy wins. Inaction on one issue or another causes one side to win. That is why there is no center.

Consider Obama's pledge to uphold DOMA (even though his platform stated otherwise). That was the illusion of moving to the center which does not exist. Anyone could have told you, because of Obama's politcal background, that when it came up, his administration would not defend it and indeed this is exactly what has happened.

When a candidate "moves to the center" it means he will be breaking his promise later on. He or she was merely getting those who massage their minds into thinking they are "intellectual" or "thinking" by staying on the fence to vote.

Now it may be that, like Obama, Romney or Hunstman will make those politically "necessary" moves to the center and those would likely be illusions as well. But because they come from the conservative side, I have more confidence that they will break their compaign promises to the benefit of the conservative pov. Thus I will still vote for them over any Democratic candidate.

However, I do believe that a true conservative can run a succesful conservative campaign without moving to the center. When a conservative begins pandering to the left, he loses conservative votes and does not gain leftist votes for similar reasons that I have outlined. Why would a leftist vote for a candidate who merely talks left when he can vote for a candidate who's foundation actually is left?

Persons who claim to be LDS have a clear choice. Support conservative candidates, or deny the Gospel of Jesus Christ by supporting leftwing candidates or no one at all. A simple comparison of doctrines vs. Leftist philosophy shows this.

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14th Jul, 2011 - 7:23pm / Post ID: #

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All candidates break their promises once they reach the white house. That's a fact. So for me, it doesn't really matter whether they're conservative or not but I do fear the conservatives more.

Rather off topic, but...

I answered part of your post on this thread: Source 6



15th Jul, 2011 - 1:14am / Post ID: #

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If you're LDS, you have nothing to fear from a conservative stance. You can't list a single conservative principle that is in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you're LDS and prefer a leftwing stance, then either you are not really LDS, don't know or ignore the doctrine, or don't fear opposing God.

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15th Jul, 2011 - 1:31am / Post ID: #

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If you're LDS and prefer a leftwing stance, then either you are not really LDS, don't know or ignore the doctrine, or don't fear opposing God.


Seriously man, why are you saying this to Liahona? There are many people who don't feel strongly as you about the conservative party you know what am I saying? It doesn't mean they're ignorant of the doctrine or don't fear opposing G-d.

Jon and Mitt aren't strong candidates IMO, they lack the experience and despite what the media says I don't find them charismatic.



15th Jul, 2011 - 1:43am / Post ID: #

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If you're LDS and prefer a leftwing stance, then either you are not really LDS, don't know or ignore the doctrine, or don't fear opposing God.

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Seriously man, why are you saying this to Liahona?


You're right. I should more politely be saying "If one is...then one is not really" instead of "you". I apologize.

But the implications are the same and I stand by them. No apology.

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There are many people who don't feel strongly as you about the conservative party you know what am I saying?


Yes. That is why I am warning my neighbor (D&C 88:81). It's time to wake up. But in reality all I am doing is expressing LDS doctrine and it's implications. If some choose not to care, they don't have to post a response.

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It doesn't mean they're ignorant of the doctrine or don't fear opposing G-d.


Or not actually believing...yes it does mean all that.

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Persephone: It is not necessary to quote the entire post of the user above you. See Constructive Posting Policy.


Sorry. The standard on some other boards I post on is to multiquote to show continuation of the conversation. I see that feature doesn't seem to be here anyway.

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15th Jul, 2011 - 3:19am / Post ID: #

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I am not sure which one is a better candidate. I lean towards Romney because he has the experience (and the good looks laugh.gif ). I think he could be a terrific president, the only thing that holds me back is his change of heart about abortion and gay rights that he used to support. Who is to say he may not change his position again.



15th Jul, 2011 - 7:16am / Post ID: #

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Who is to say he may not change his position again.


Well, with the Democrat candidate, you can be sure what his position will be no matter what he actually says. Plus you'll want someone who has an actual likelihood of nominating conservatives, not activists, to the courts.



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