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16th Jul, 2011 - 5:11pm / Post ID: #

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What gets me, is I always hear the statement, "Higher standards for missionaries", yet I"ve never once heard what those new standards are. If anyone has any sources that state those "new" standards, I would be grateful.



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16th Jul, 2011 - 6:58pm / Post ID: #

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Maybe the expectation is not on the end you're looking. Higher standards might be higher baptism count rather any higher performance / conduct issues.



17th Jul, 2011 - 10:43pm / Post ID: #

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Ah..I'm surprised you resort to the infamous "has no bearing on one's salvation" or "it's not important for our salvation" line members seem to love to say when the issues are controversial. What you may consider no bearing, it may for others after all, there were doctrines in the past that were taught as necessary for Salvation.


There really is nothing to resort to but the clear doctrines of the Church. One of those is that some doctrines are more important than others. So if I claim to accept the truth claims of the LDS Church, then I must also accept how the Church treats it's doctrine.

For the intellectually honest, neither of those issues are catastrophic for the Church.

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What gets me, is I always hear the statement, "Higher standards for missionaries", yet I"ve never once heard what those new standards are. If anyone has any sources that state those "new" standards, I would be grateful.


For example, it used to be that young candidates for service who had previously engaged in premarital sex could go after a year of repentance. Unfortunately, such tend to backslide so now fornication almost automatically precludes one from missionary service.



19th Jul, 2011 - 6:03pm / Post ID: #

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For example, it used to be that young candidates for service who had previously engaged in premarital sex could go after a year of repentance. Unfortunately, such tend to backslide so now fornication almost automatically precludes one from missionary service.


Thanks for sharing this Bcspace. I didn't know that. I wonder though if those missionaries who struggle with p-rn can still serve a mission?



19th Jul, 2011 - 6:43pm / Post ID: #

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I think it's possible. But the trend for "raising the bar" is to eliminate from eligibility for service those who have had problems which are of the type that re-occur.



20th Jul, 2011 - 6:48pm / Post ID: #

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Chicasud,

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I wonder though if those missionaries who struggle with p-rn can still serve a mission?


A good friend of mine has been struggling with p-rn for many years. He told his Bishop about it and the Stake President and he was advised to go through the LDS recovery program. He did but he still here, he's heartbroken. sad.gif



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20th Jul, 2011 - 7:05pm / Post ID: #

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While I understand the Church's view on these sins vis a vis serving a mission, I can't help but wonder how all this fits with the doctrine of repentance. From previous experience before "raising the bar" some will truly repent. Plus, I don't think that raising the bar has resulted in a greater number of converts than there would have been and I don't think that having those "rebel" missionaries prior to raising the bar necessarily resulted in an overall decrease in converts.

There is an interesting tension here because I think a sporting analogy is also true in this case. A team that practices easy might attract more players. But a team that practices hard and well should win more games but attract fewer players.



20th Jul, 2011 - 7:06pm / Post ID: #

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Plus, I don't think that raising the bar has resulted in a greater number of converts than there would have been and I don't think that having those "rebel" missionaries prior to raising the bar necessarily resulted in an overall decrease in converts.


Brother Bc, but is that the point? (whether increases or decreases the number of converts) or whether or not the young man in question is worthy to represent Christ for two years in a full time mission.



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