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"Hasn't anybody got the guts to accuse the worst perpetrator in this whole Abu Ghraib prison debacle - CBS and 60 Minutes II?

What do you call it when, in time of war, someone takes military intelligence and turns it over to the enemy, who in turn uses it to kill Americans?

Isn't that the definition of treason? Did Benedict Arnold do worse? Did Julias and Ethel Rosenberg pay with their lives for something like this?

It has already been well established, and CBS certainly knew, that the military announced to the press back in January that allegations had been made concerning treatment of prisoners and were being investigated.

In March there was another announcement that the allegations were still being investigated and certain service personnel at Abu Ghraib were relieved of their duties and might be court marshaled.


In other words, while America was fighting a war, the military had already taken the allegations seriously, were investigating them and were taking steps to correct the situation. In other words, it was being handled, and handled well."

The entire article is here: well worth the read, it really isn't that long.
https://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2...24/132813.shtml

Edited: tenaheff on 13th Jun, 2004 - 9:48pm

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That's what I have been saying all along. CBS (along with all the rest of the alphabet soup) have been purposely sabotaging the war effort, by putting the worst spin possible on all of the news.

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Wait a minute here....is it me or you Agene and Nighthawk are blaming CBS and other news channels for what happened Abu Ghraib?. Because if you all do, I think it's outrageous, because it was NOT CBS or any other channel who forced the Iraqi prisoners to be naked, mock them, no giving them food or proper health care, beat them up, make competitions of who beats more a prisoner, sexually harrass them, and the list goes on.... It was the American soldiers who did it for heaven's sake!.
Yes, CBS knew about it before hand so what?. The US government knew about it too! and I totally disagree the fact that it handle properly because if that's the case, we will not be dealing with this problem right now. Let's not confuse the role of the media that has the right of expression and inform and the role of the US government in this case, to make sure abuses and tortures are NOT happening on in the jails in times of war.
So let's be mature enough to admit when they have done something that is plainly WRONG. In my humble opinion, just by looking lightly in someone else to blame but the American government is a way to say 'It is not ALL our fault, after all'. Very dangerous thinking.

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LDS, did you read the entire article? The link won't work, Tena edited out part of it. That letter was written by entertainer Pat Boone. And yes I do agree with it. The media has way too much unbridled power. They don't stop and consider the consequences of what they are printing.

From the article:

By The Way, Pat Boone is a Christian. He doesn't drink, smoke, swear, etc. Nor will he allow anyone in his company/business to do so either!

If you want the correct link, PM me and I will give it to you.

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No, they are not saying that CBS is responsible for the behavior that went on, the abuses in the Abu Ghraib prison, but that CBS should not have released their pictures and stories about it until later.

By releasing it now, they have undermined the progress made, and future progress. It's horrible what happened there, and I am horrified and ashamed at those soldiers responsible for these events. What the world sees is only what this handful of people did. The focus on the positive things, the good progress, etc., is now "back-burnered" and future progress is hindered because of this story being released at this time.

"Freedom of the Press" used to be accompanied by a responsible handling of sensitive information; more and more, apparently, that's not true anymore.

IMO
Roz

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The other side of it, besides releasing the pictures and videos when they did, is that they did it in such a way as to make it appear that the Pentagon was trying to cover it all up. The Army, and the Pentagon, have been investigating the issue, and taking action, since January, at the latest. CBS has managed to make it appear to the whole world that the US was purposely doing those types of things.

Now, every person who comes out of a prison run by MPs, is claiming that he has been abused, although independent observers dispute this. Because of the way CBS presented the information, most people believe the criminals who are released, and none of the Iraqi doctors, guards, professionals, or even independent international observers are given any credence.

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I guess this is one of those topics we will not agree with, because I'm also a journalist and I have worked in Media for years. So I know how it is the inside 'world' of Journalism. Most people mix up the responsibilities of the Media and what they think they *should or should not* do.

Anyhow....

The fact that Rumsfeld got such a rebuke from Pres. Bush about NOT telling him about those abuses, it is obvious that not 'everybody', even key people, knew the *depth* of this situation.

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Did he get a rebuke? Where is the documentation. I am not saying he didn't, just that there is some suspicion about the facts.

If the media is innocent in this matter, why haven't any of the US media reported ANY of the good things that have happened in Iraq? Why do they refuse to acknowledge the heroes, as well as the villians in this little drama? Why do they dwell on the ongoing investigation about the abuses done by the Americans, but ignore the fact that it was American soldiers who blew the whistle, and American soldiers who are investigating and prosecuting the criminals?

Why do the media continue to attempt to sabotage all the efforts of the US military to hand the government over to Iraqis peacefully? If it hadn't been for the media glorification of Fallujah and al-Sadr, half of the soldiers currently in Iraq would have been home.

The facts indicate that the US and European media WANT the US to lose. They WANT US soldiers to be killed, so that the US will learn that it is not profitable to help other people gain liberty. Thus, they dwell on the story of the villians for weeks. They purposely write the stories in the way most likely to make it appear that ALL soldiers are guilty (nevermind the idea of innocent until proven guilty). Let 10,000 soldiers proclaim that they detest the actions of those six, and nobody says a word. Let one of the accused claim that they were under orders, and the whole world knows it in moments.

To me, the media has a repsonsibility to provide a clear picture of the situation. They refuse to do so. As far as I am concerned, they don't deserve to have any access to any news in the United States, since they have proven, over and over, that they are treasonous. Not for reporting the bad news, but for ONLY reporting the bad news - giving a distorted picture, giving aid and comfort to the enemy.