While my reply is a bit offtopic, it does apply:
I will make an assumption here that you are replying like this mainly because it deals with a US military member, involved in Iraq. If I am wrong, I hope you will explain to me what your stand is.
So, based on your statement, "Compassion my foot....murder is murder", I would ask you to go to the discussion about Terri Shiavo to discuss this attitude a little further. It would also be very nice to discuss this with you on the abortion topic. I am NOT making any assumptions here. I would really like to discuss this attitude outside of the framework of military action with the US military involvement.
BTW, am I wrong in the above assumption?
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Video of eight soldiers beating Iraqi youths will be investigated, says Blair
The British Army is facing yet another deeply embarrassing abuse scandal after pictures emerged that appear to show soldiers beating Iraqi captives.
The violent images are of eight unidentified British soldiers kicking and hitting four young men with batons and then later mocking a dead Iraqi by kicking him in the face.
Ref. https://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article345115.ece
I have just seen fresh photos of prisoner abuse at Abu Grahib. It ruly made me sick in the stomach.
The leading Australian current affairs show Dateline showed all 60 photos in an exclusive report despite the US Government's best attempts to gag the media on their release through the US courts.
Abu Grahib was known as the worst Iraqi torture jail under the brutal Saddam regime. It would appear very little has changed. These photos, including 6 dead corpses were sickening.
They showed sexual assault, sodomy, the result of extreme violence and shootings to name a few.
Prisoners were often naked and made to masturbate in front of watching, laughing soldiers. They were made to pose in brutally demeaning and insulting ways.
There were US soldiers posing with dead bodies, laughing at them. There was men with human feces caked all over them. Some were just lying motionless next to pools of blood
I don't need to go in any more detail, it was plain sick.
What makes these acts even worse is that MOST of the prisoners captured by the Coalition and tortured at Abu Grahib are innocent. Most of those who survived the torture have been released without charge.
But of course they will be scarred for life.
I can not believe that Grainger only got 10 years and the others barely a wrap across the knuckles.
In most civilian courts these vile animals would be jailed for life.
I would urge everyone to take the opportunity to see these photos and be informed about the extent of prisoner abuse. I had no idea how bad and widespread the torture at Abu Grahib was. I've also heard of reports that it still continues.
The pictures should be on the internet soon, but I haven't had a chance to find them.
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I also saw just some of those pictures and I must say I was also made sick and for a want of a better word - deeply saddened. I would expect this from terrorists, torturers in some African jungle, but the supposed civilized world? The UK / US soldiers have a lot to answer for regardless of the situation (hardships) they were under - they have the right to choose. One might argue that they were humiliating them to get information, if so, did you have to stop to take smiling pictures too? Criminals is what they are and their punishment needs to be tough! However, it is good to see that not all that the US does is good for another country, sometimes they bring a lot of pain too, as is shown here.
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I agree with you JB. What makes these acts particularly bad is that they are coming from nations that are expected to behave with honour. We expect vile regimes like the Baathist party to use such techniques, but not democratic western countries.
These incidents have badly stained the US military's reputation around the world. It is also a slur on the Pentagon, who, under the watch of Rumsfeld, said it was ok to use torture on prisoners. For some reason, if you commit these acts as a soldier, it's not as bad as when a civilian does it? I can't quite understand this.
You can not win a war on "terror" by using terror. When will they ever learn?
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SIX MONTHS FOR ABU GHRAIB DOG HANDLER
A soldier found guilty of using a military dog to terrorize inmates at Iraq's notorious Abu Ghraib prison was sentenced Wednesday to 179 days confinement and will be discharged for bad conduct.
Ref. https://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/22/doghandl...nced/index.html
It must have really been bad for someone to take their own life over it:
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Soldier Killed Herself After Objecting to Interrogation Techniques Being Used on Iraqi Prisoners Specialist Alyssa Peterson died in Iraq in September, 2003. The military listed her death as the result of a "non-hostile weapons discharge." But newly uncovered military documents reveal Peterson actually shot herself with her service rifle. The documents also show her suicide came just two weeks after she refused to take part in further interrogations of Iraqi prisoners and had asked to be reassigned. We speak with the reporter who broke the story. Ref. https://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/07/1445239 |
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