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That question has been posed for a while now, but it is because it is election time in the US that we get to hear about it again. Here is a story from 2005:

https://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2...4rebuilding.htm
https://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exe...ew.cgi/37/11338

From last year...

https://money.cnn.com/2007/11/08/news/inter...q_oil/index.htm

The price per barrel is quite a bit higher now, but the problems are still somewhat the same. The surge has slowed down the insurgency, but has done little against the corruption and profiteering. This doesnt even count the fact that the government of Iraq is the biggest consumer of the profits.

Edited: Vincenzo on 10th Mar, 2008 - 12:52am

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Defeat: British Journalist Jonathan Steele on Why America and Britain Lost Iraq

As the fifth anniversary of the US invasion of Iraq approaches, we speak with Jonathan Steele, one of the journalists who has covered the Iraq war since 2003. Steele is the senior foreign correspondent and in-house columnist on international affairs for the London Guardian. His latest book is Defeat: Why America and Britain Lost Iraq.
Ref. https://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/13/defe...nalist_jonathan

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Winter Soldier: US Vets, Active-Duty Soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan Testify About the Horrors of War

US veterans gathered in Maryland this past weekend to testify at Winter Soldier, an eyewitness indictment of atrocities committed by US troops during the ongoing occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Soldiers spoke of free-fire zones, the shootings and beatings of innocent civilians, racism at the highest levels of the military, sexual harassment and assault within the military, and the torturing of prisoners. While the corporate media ignored the story, we broadcast their voices.
Ref. https://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/17/wint...ets_active_duty

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Winter Soldier CONT'D: US Vets, Active-Duty Soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan Testify About the Horrors of War

As we mark the five-year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq this week, we continue to bring you the voices of US veterans and active-duty soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan testifying about the horrors of war. For four days, soldiers convened at the National Labor College in Silver Spring, Maryland for Winter Soldier, an eyewitness indictment of atrocities committed by US troops during the ongoing occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, the event was modeled after the historic 1971 Winter Soldier hearings held during the Vietnam War.
Ref. https://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/18/wint..._us_vets_active

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I often wonder if all that happened in Iraq actually makes the world a safer place or a more dangerous place to live in. This Topic of course is highly debated without even having to bring in any Iraqis. Too bad we do not have active up to date input from people living in Iraq or soldiers serving there.

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I do not think the world is safer because of the War, but it is definitely not more dangerous.

During the 90's people, myself included, In the U.S. chose to ignore problems that had been brewing for decades involving radical Islamic regimes. We lived our lives ignoring the fact that their was a segment of the World who hated us, and would love to see us dead.

Some would say that the hatred by some for the United States is a relatively new thing, Only seen under President Bush. The seeds, however, were there from the 1970's during the Carter Presidency and Khomeini rule in Iran and has continued since then.

The Iraq War was going to be fought, if not now, sometime soon. Saddam Hussein wanted the War (evidenced by the fact that he continued to violate the cease fire that was in place from Gulf War 1) , the United States believed that Iraq was a threat through the Bush 1 presidency during the Clinton presidency and culminating in the Bush 2 presidency. It was going to happen.

The Iraq War, in my opinion, is a minor battle in the Larger War against Radical Islam, that will surely come to pass. This is nothing compared to what is going to happen, regardless of who becomes president Democrat or Republican. There is nothing, unfortunately, that anyone is going to be able to do to stop the coming blood bath.

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Isn't that like saying that regardless of the War everything remains the same?

I have many Threads expressing that before the US attacks a country it tends to get involved in its' political system first. As just ONE example, the US actually helped Saddam rise to power and gave him the military weapons necessary to attack Iran. It's only when Saddam no longer agreed to be a controlled puppet by the US did things not look good anymore.

I believe so much goes on behind the scenes with these wars and political appointments that I do not think we will ever know the truth, at least not until decades later a good example: The Vietnam War.

As for my original question. The prolonged War has caused or at least given the excuse for record high oil prices (mostly in the beginning, but now I feel there is another big reason), at the same time there is the unseen that people do not realize... the third world countries that feel the heat of this and have to pay more for BASIC goods and services with low salaries. What does this mean? More crime in these third world countries. Is this the fault of the Iraq War, not directly, but it is the cause of globalization, especially economic globalization. Even the US is paying the price right now with a big drop in the US dollar.

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The question is pretty similar to asking if the cold war made the world safer while it was happening or more dangerous because of all the weapons manufactured. The war in Iraq is keeping lots of people occupied that might otherwise be plotting out the next 9/11, but how can you prove it other than another 9/11 hasn't really happened.

What has happened in Iraq is that the people are being given a chance to take control of their destiny in a way that would have been impossible under Hussien. It truly is up to them to seize the moment and not let it slide back to the way it was as you know there is another Saddam just waiting for the opportunity to take over again.

The world has always been a dangerous place. The 1910's (WWI), 1940's (WWII), 1950's (Korea), 1960's - 1975 (Vietnam), 1980's (Iran-Iraq War), 1990's (Gulf War & Kosovo), 2000's....all have seen war. When it doesn't effect us directly, we call it peace, so no I don't think the world is safer for the Iraq war, but maybe the enemy is a bit more preoccupied these days. Unfortunately, we are too!

Rather off topic, but... Oil historically has gone through pricing cycles and this is yet another one. All beit this is the worst one on record. The record prices are driven by many things and yes this is one, but not likely the major one. China's voracious demand on oil will exceed that of the US, if it hasn't already and the supplies of oil aren't increasing with time, so simple Economic Theory of Supply vs Demand is in play. The obvious recession in the US is another...this may also be a bad thing for China as well. Also, funding a war has shown repeatedly to help the US economy and not hurt it. The US goes through a recession (or what ever form of the word economic adjustment you can think of) about every 10 years. In my opinion, the money making good times hit a peak and then the shady ways in which some companies figure out how to make money is exposed and makes us all take a step back (Stagflation of the 70's w/oil crisis, Savings and Loan Bailout of the 80's, Corp. Accounting Procedures...Enron, Worldcom, etc... in the 90's, Sub-prime lending in the 2000's). The sub-prime lending on the surface isn't bad, because it was a nice tool to help people get a house that would otherwise have a problem. The issue has become where they take another loan and another loan out against the house and then default on all of them...and that is what is happening. The effects of a economic downturn for the major consumers of the worlds good is not much different outside than inside the country. The rich get hit a little, but they are still rich (unless it was all in assets that lose their value), so they live on. However, when the recession/depression/stagflation hits the middle class, it hits the hardest. The poor will continue to be poor, so it is no great change for them. The middle class are the major consumers (middle sized companies and middle class families) and when the start loosing work or their money doesn't go as far, they buy less and the country they live in as well as the world feels it.

The US has a history of picking bad leaders after they leave a country that has been given freedom. Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc...(and the list does go on) all are examples of whom was installed being either too weak to control or becomes a total dictator. Absolute power does apparently corrupt absolutely and does so on a very repeatable basis around the world...