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I've read a few "brave" articles that suggest that the Western news services don't portray an accurate portrait of the Iraqi situation.  I'll probably never know the truth because I'm going to Iraq to find out for myself.  But some of what I've read suggests the Iraqi people are happier with the situation than news reports suggest and they are hopefully optimist about the future.

I think that is the key issue.  Yes, you will be just as dead if killed by a foreign soldier as by your own government.  But with Saddam in power the Iraqi people had no hope of a future.  Now there is at least hope

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I'm going to Iraq to find out for myself.

You mean you are or you are not?

I was just thinking that the US are not only in Iraq but in terror capital and they are experiencing mini Sept 11ths all over. What is the solution for this place? Where is Saddam? So many questions... no one seems to have an answer.

EXPLOSION ROCKS BAGHDAD HOTEL
An "extremely powerful" explosion hit the Baghdad Hotel Sunday, reducing parts
of it to rubble and causing the area to erupt into chaos.
https://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/10/12/...main/index.html

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But some of what I've read suggests the Iraqi people are happier with the situation than news reports suggest and they are hopefully optimist about the future

I don't know where did you read that but it's obvious to me reading that every day American soldiers are being killed the people are not as happier as you may think. People are without jobs, without basic needs that the USA has promised to them for such a long time...happier? I don't think so.

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Yes, JB that was a major typo.  

LDS, I believe I stated that I had read contradictory reports and that I probably wouldn't know the truth for myself.  However, I certainly don't trust any news reports to give us an accurate portrayal of what's going on so I wonder how else we're supposed to know.

I am not a big Bush fan and I agree mistakes were made in planning the reconstruction process (nor am I oblivious to the fact that our VP's former company has the lions share of the rebuilding contracts)

However, as my post pointed out you have to look at the big picture.  The United States did not just spring up one night.  A great many people fought and died in the Revolutionary war - including some of my ancestors.  As sad as it was for those that died I'm glad the war was fought.  If it hadn't America would not be a free country.  That also means that the church that many of us here belong to would not have exisited - because the US Constitution made freedom of religion possible.  At the time many countries still persecuted those who strayed from the state religion.  Some still do.

So I guess we have a difference of opinion.  Some would prefer to live under tyranny to avoid the real destruction of war.  

Some would rather suffer the hazards of war for the hope of being free.

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However, as my post pointed out you have to look at the big picture.  The United States did not just spring up one night.  A great many people fought and died in the Revolutionary war - including some of my ancestors.  As sad as it was for those that died I'm glad the war was fought.  If it hadn't America would not be a free country.  That also means that the church that many of us here belong to would not have exisited - because the US Constitution made freedom of religion possible.  At the time many countries still persecuted those who strayed from the state religion.  Some still do. So I guess we have a difference of opinion.  Some would prefer to live under tyranny to avoid the real destruction of war.   Some would rather suffer the hazards of war for the hope of being free

Yes, we have different views about the subject, you being an American and I seeing the whole picture from another perspective

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LDS, I take it you're saying that only non-Americans can see the whole picture.  A difference of opinion is one thing but that's a direct insult.  I love it when people define open mindedness as agreeing with them and narrow mindedness as disagreeing.

Can you support your position by indicating how you have access to information (news reports)  that you can verify is correct?  Information that states unequivocaly that between 40 - 50% of the Iraqi's are not happy the Americans came as has been reported.

You seem to be making the assumption that because American soldiers are dying that the Iraqi's are 100% against the Americans.  That is an assumption not supported by facts.

Why don't you guys change the name of this board to bordenonamerican and advise Americans not to join.  I belong to other boards with international members and we have some differing opinions but insulting one another is prohibited.  

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Sofia, first of all...chill out where did I insult you?. You're the one who is making all the assumptions, not me. The reason I said the statement above was in relation to your comment in why we don't agree. That's why I said that the reason we don't agree is because you're an American and I'm not, therefore my views, my thoughs and my feelings about the whole issue are different. I am not sending my friends or family to die on a war, it's not my country involved...therefore, like I said before, my whole 'picture' of the whole thing is different, is based on what I see from my position not from yours. You get it? Oh boy : before being so sensitive it would be wiser to ask what I meant instead of getting all hyper.

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LDS, I take it you're saying that only non-Americans can see the whole picture.  A difference of opinion is one thing but that's a direct insult

:spock: All relations aside I am still trying to see how seeing something from another perspective is an insult? I can relate to LDS in not being from the USA or Iraq for that matter... it enables you to stand aside and see from outside in. No one here is claiming to know more than another to have the right view.
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Why don't you guys change the name of this board to bordenonamerican and advise Americans not to join.

No need to degrade your posts by entering into sarcasm, simply send in a request to have your membership removed if you no longer wish to be here.[/offtopic]