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versus U.S.A. So, now that the USA left Iraq can the country rebuild herself and become stable?
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5th Jan, 2004 - 10:50am / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (LDS_forever @ 4-Jan 04, 9:51 PM)
now what we are discussing is about something you and other people said : that the main reason the US entered Iraq WAS NOT because of the WMDs, the quotes above and so many others confirm the fact that the USA reason to invade Iraq was because of the WMDs! now I do feel they're trying to downplayed it because no weapons were found, so what they can do?.

We know where the WMDs are. There are many reports, by credible sources, that they were shipped into Syria, just as US forces entered the southern area of Baghdad. The rivers in Baghdad were full of chemicals when US forces got there, all precursors to chemical weapons such as nerve gas. Portable biological labs were found.

Have we found nukes? No. Nobody was ever sure that there were any nuclear weapons, just that Iraq was working very hard to get some. We also know that Hussein funded the Pakistani nuclear weapons program. Since Pakistan had them, it wasn't much of a stretch to expect that they would share their technology, if not the actual physical components, with their sponsors.

The presence of WMDs was ONE reason among many for our involvement.

Before we go any further, I would like to reiterate that I was not actually a proponent of our involvement there. I can't really see any legal, constitutional justification for us to do what we did, although the net effect is extremely positive.

NightHawk


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5th Jan, 2004 - 12:06pm / Post ID: #

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Let us supposed that the theory is true and Saddam sent the WMD to Syria. That would bring up the following question:
1. Why Syria?
2. What was the arrangement?
3. Why didn't Saddam leave too?


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26th Jan, 2004 - 5:24am / Post ID: #

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So, no WMD, one has to wonder on what basis was the war launched if there were no WMD? If they were there, then where are they now?

POWELL UNSURE IF IRAQ WMDS WILL BE FOUND
U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Saturday that it remains unclear
whether weapons of mass destruction will be found in Iraq.
https://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/24/powell.georgia/index.html

Lastly, why are we not hearing more about Saddam's capture? We keep hearing about how he is to be tried, but nothing about his knowledge of WMD, or probably, after serious questioning they have come to realize that he was telling the truth? (That they had no WMD?)


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26th Jan, 2004 - 2:38pm / Post ID: #

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The reports I have heard don't say the intelligence people didn't report that there were WMD, it says they believe the reports were wrong. So, the basis was still WMD, even if the intelligence was wrong.

What I also find interesting is the democrats want to blame Bush for the failed intelligence, yet it was the Clinton administration that continually made cuts in the US intelligence program.


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26th Jan, 2004 - 4:50pm / Post ID: #

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I would like to add that the Clinton administration said much more than the Bush administration did about Iraq having and developing WMDs. Clinton, several times, said that the most important foreign policy concern was the Iraqi ownership of WMDs. His administration also linked bin Laden to Hussein several times.

Yet only Bush gets the blame....

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26th Jan, 2004 - 6:41pm / Post ID: #

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laugh.gif Let us not make this a Clinton rant now... one thing has to be considered. Considering the level at which a conspiracy can happen, could it be, even if at a remote possibility... this was an elaborate plan to make Bush fall and at the same time take out Saddam?

What I want to see is how Blair will deal with it, afterall he was 'riding' on Bush's word.


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26th Jan, 2004 - 7:17pm / Post ID: #

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I supposed anything is possible. However, I don't generally buy into all that stuff. First of all, I doubt the intelligence community would want to see Bush fall. It is traditionally the republican administrations that fund such organizations. If they wanted anyone to fall it would have been Clinton. I think they simply may have gotten it wrong.

Also, just because this guy says he doesn't think there are any, doesn't make it so. Bush inherited the belief from Clinton that they did exist. So, our intelligence community has been saying for a long time that they did exist. Maybe it was a conspiracy to get rid of Clinton that didn't work and ended up getting the wrong guy. wink.gif


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QUOTE (Nighthawk @ 26-Jan 04, 4:50 PM)
I would like to add that the Clinton administration said much more than the Bush administration did about Iraq having and developing WMDs. Clinton, several times, said that the most important foreign policy concern was the Iraqi ownership of WMDs. His administration also linked bin Laden to Hussein several times.

Yet only Bush gets the blame....

NightHawk

not just Clinton, but also Gore, Hillary, Ted Kennedy and a ton of other leading Dems, including the current front-runner for the Dem nomination, John Kerry

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"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb. 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb., 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Sadism continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct. 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct. 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to Miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real.
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003



 
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