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Intifada - can it be that this new Iraqi environment is now similar to the Palestine/Israel environment? If so what can we look forward to? Nothing good in my opinion. From a religious perspective I can say this may be the start of it all as it were. From a secular perspective I think there will be troubled times ahead, especially based on the effect of 911, the militant Islamic world is now using Iraq as the ultimate testing ground and I think they see themselves as the 'heroes' of the invaders. Could you imagine the US leaving now? Or even in June? I could not, it would be absolute chaos, all this talk of pulling out is really laughable... the US is going to be there a longgggg time.

REF. Leroy Sievers and the Nightline Staff ABCNEWS Washington D.C.

The U.S. military has announced that anyone seen on the street with a weapon will be shot. And Iraq is flooded with weapons. And the new, troubling tactic of kidnapping seems to be spreading. More foreigners, reportedly four Italians and possibly two Americans, have been reported kidnapped as I write this. Correspondent David Wright will report from Iraq tonight, and we'll also talk to him about the difficulties of just trying to move around and cover the story.

As you might imagine, Arab-language media is giving the fighting in Iraq extensive coverage. And the impact of that coverage in the Arab world is substantial. For the first time, the term "intifada," uprising, is being used to describe what is going on. But that's more than just a word. "Intifada," up until now, has been reserved for the Palestinian uprising in Israel. It's a term loaded with meaning.

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Trinidad, I think you are right on mark in regards to the similarity to the Palestine/Israel conflict. And you are also right when you say the Americans cannot pull out, the problem however, as the occupation continues so will the spiral of hatred and violence and I'm not sure that the American people will put up much longer with their kids coming home in body bags. Surely we have learned something from the Israeli experience. The US must change their strategy in Iraq from one of brute force to intelligent diplomacy. They need to start talking to the people of Iraq; they need to be able to present to the people of Iraq a clear and detailed transition plan as soon as possible. The Americans need to get UN support, to do so, they will have to give up the condition that they call all the shots. UN and allies will not go into Iraq as subservient sub-contractor to the US. But before all this can happen a ceasefire with the insurgents is a must.

The big question is, do the American want to stay in Iraq at ALL cost. The reason I'm saying this, there is speculation the US is looking for an excuse to invade Iran and the US just may have it.. If it is true that Iran is providing support to the Shiites(which I think they are) does the US have a case???

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To me that is the problem with some of the militants... their idea of diplomacy is a bomb.

Yes, we discussed that some messages back and decided it should have its' own thread --> USA vs. Iran as we like to keep each thread on topic.

Offtopic but, By the way, I had put this before, but here it is again: 1. update your first intro thread with a little about yourself so the members know more about you and 'where you are coming from'.2. update your profile and choose an avatar, this gives you character. 3. Lastly, you should check the other boards here as well... Activism , Business, etc. Your input there should be good.

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I don't know if at ALL cost but it's obvious they want to finish the 'job' although in my humble opinion the approach and methods are not the most convenient. A better and wider international present is needed in Iraq, a clear and detailed plan just like MR. B said is also needed, but specially they need to speed up things but with everything going on right now there, I don't see this happening anytime soon. That's why I think and I said it before that I don't think that the people in Iraq are happy about the US intervention, yes they are happy that they got rid of Saddam but at what cost they may wonder. I believe this is far from being a easy task, but also I believe that the US government and intelligence forces did NOT forsee this kind of things happening right now. I do have the impression they thought this would be like what happen in Kuwaitt and it's far from it.

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Trinidad, as requested I updated my profile and provided more info about myself. As for the avatar, none in the choice offered suit me and I would not be able to put my photo up if my life depended on it, I have very little computer skills.

Back to Iraq. You write ....".that the problem with some of the militants.... their idea of diplomacy is a bomb "
I'm not sure of the point you want to make.

Dropping 500 pound bombs from 30,000 feet may be a good military strategy but it sure is not good diplomacy.

In my opinion, if the Americans want to end this conflict as fast as possible I truly believe that talking to the true and real leaders (Shiite, Sunni, Kurds etc..) of the Iraqi people (not the members of the Governing Council) is the best and only way to go. At this stage of the game, military action is the solution.

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In my opinion most militant organizations will listen to leadership, but not necessarily follow it. They always have their own agenda. So even if the US or any other nation were to stop military action there will always be someone that says... 'Remember when they killed our women, our children...' and vengeance will be the order of the day. As one great Man said... 'Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword'. In other words - nothing that starts bad usually ends good.

Offtopic but, Thanks for updating your profile. Since you are contributing so well to the forum you can send me your pic via Email and I will install it for you. My Email is available via the contact page. You may also wish to look over the FAQ board to learn how to use the off topic and quote tags. Thanks - you are doing well.

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Can anyone explain me the reason behind the release of the chinese citizens that were kidnapped? Is it that the terrorists confused them as japanese nationals?. I also heard they held some Russian workers for a very short time but they release them and apologized to them. What's going on?. Are they kidnapping national from those countries who have troops in Iraq or support the US in this war or they are kidnapping any foreigner?

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I think the terrorists are watching (yes, these kinds of people like to see the news, hear the news) to see what the results are of their kidnapping. So if they got someone and it is someone that is generating enough importance then they will 'play' with it, but if it is not then they will release them as they did with the Chinese. Unfortunately I just got a CNN breaking news EMail:
Bodies of four missing U.S. military contract workers found in Iraq, a State Department official confirms to CNN.