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  Bush did and is doing the right thing       27.12%
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  It started well, but seems to be ending bad       13.56%
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  I am totally neutral about the topic       3.39%
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  Saddam needed to be removed, but not in this way       16.95%
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versus U.S.A. So, now that the USA left Iraq can the country rebuild herself and become stable?
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16th Apr, 2004 - 2:49pm / Post ID: #

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The US has not been able to come up with one shred of evidence linking Iraq to 9/11. or to Al-Qaida....


See this article about this subject. Here is a quote from it.

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That is why is important to remember why we fight in Iraq -- and who we fight. Indeed, many of those sniping at U.S. troops are al Qaeda terrorists operating inside Iraq. And many of bin Laden's men were in Iraq prior to the liberation. A wealth of evidence on the public record -- from government reports and congressional testimony to news accounts from major newspapers -- attests to longstanding ties between bin Laden and Saddam going back to 1994.


Here are a couple of the "shreds of evidence" that don't exist.

  • Abdul Rahman Yasin was the only member of the al Qaeda cell that detonated the 1993 World Trade Center bomb to remain at large in the Clinton years. He fled to Iraq. U.S. forces recently discovered a cache of documents in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, that show that Iraq gave Mr. Yasin both a house and monthly salary.


  • In 1999 the Guardian, a British newspaper, reported that Farouk Hijazi, a senior officer in Iraq's mukhabarat, had journeyed deep into the icy mountains near Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 1998 to meet with al Qaeda men. Mr. Hijazi is "thought to have offered bin Laden asylum in Iraq," the Guardian reported.


  • In 1998, Abbas al-Janabi, a longtime aide to Saddam's son Uday, defected to the West. At the time, he repeatedly told reporters that there was a direct connection between Iraq and al Qaeda.


That's just three "shreds of evidence" that the US has, that you say don't exist. The article I referenced lists many, many others.

Read the post above about the WMDs. If they didn't exist, why is there so much evidence for them? Where did the contaminated nuclear processing equipment come from? Why were there precursors to deadly nerve agents found dumped in the Tigris and Euphrates rivers when US forces got there? Why were there mobile biological stations found in Baghdad? What were all those strange trucks rushing from Iraq to Syria as Baghdad fell? (Reported by non-US media, BTW).

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On the true fight on terrorism the world supported the US and provided military assistance to go after the Taliban and Al-Qaida in Afghanistan. In fact, Canadian troops are still in Afghanistan and to all accounts, doing a pretty good job.


Good for them. As for the world NOT supporting the US in Iraq, it is the Axis of Weasels who mostly opposed our work there. Of course the Axis consists of Russia, Germany, and France, all of whom have implicated BY THE UN in the "Oil for Food" corruption scandal.

Democracy is only one of many aspects of what is going on in Iraq. Allowing the Iraqi people to create their own destiny, whatever it ultimately will be, is the most important. But an independent Iraqi commission recently published a report that under Hussein, over 70,000 Iraqi citizens would now be dead who are still alive. We have uncovered mass graves of over 400,000 people. Well over 50% of the Iraqi people are thankful that the US went in there. Less than 15% of the Iraqi people want the US to leave right now.

The war in Iraq IS about terrorism. And it's working.

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You seem to be saying that the "world" is against the US. Italy isn't, in fact, the recent murder of an innocent Italian worker has firmed up the Italian government's support for action in Iraq. See this blog article for a view from an Italian man about what his government is doing.

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16th Apr, 2004 - 4:33pm / Post ID: #

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If they didn't exist, why is there so much evidence for them?


I don't think anybody denies that the weapons of mass destruction existed, the point is where are they?, what I'm trying to say is: Did Bush know before hand that once he got Iraq that it was no way he could find such weapons? or did he take a chance?


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16th Apr, 2004 - 5:29pm / Post ID: #

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I don't think anybody denies that the weapons of mass destruction existed


Lots of people have denied that they existed, including on this very forum. Several have claimed that Bush just made them up as an excuse to get us into Iraq.

I don't know what happened to them. The scrap metal that was the Iraqi nuclear program indicates that this particular program was very quickly dismantled. The fact that the chemicals were found in the rivers indicates that the chemicals were dumped. (Did you happen to hear any greenies complaining about this pollution? Neither did I.)


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16th Apr, 2004 - 5:34pm / Post ID: #

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I don't know what happened to them.


And Bush either undecided.gif . You see, he went to Iraq in order to get rid of those weapons and get rid of Saddam, he got rid of Saddam but no weapons around. That looked really ugly, think about it. You go and bomb a country and then you find no real evidence, doesn't look terrible? even though you know there were weapons but if you cannot find it, how you prove it?. Now, my point is did he know he was going to end up empty hands?.


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16th Apr, 2004 - 8:05pm / Post ID: #

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From CNN:

Hostage's wife, aunt have heard no word from Iraq

MACON, Mississippi (CNN) -- U.S. contract truck driver Thomas Hamill has been held hostage in Iraq for a week with no word on his condition since kidnappers threatened to kill him Sunday.

Hamill's wife, Kellie, and his aunt Colleen Higginbotham discussed the ordeal Thursday with Larry King on CNN's "Larry King Live" via satellite from Mississippi.

KING: Is Thomas your brother or sister's son, Colleen?

HIGGINBOTHAM: He's my brother's son.

KING: When did you -- by the way, have you heard anything lately at all, Kellie?

KELLIE HAMILL: No, sir, we have not.

https://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/04/16/hamill.lkl/index.html


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17th Apr, 2004 - 2:38am / Post ID: #

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Did I already express my absolute disgust for hostage-takers? A lot of people would torture them to death for this despicable crime. I would just kill them. And, yes, I would be willing to pull the trigger on these scum.
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Post Date: 17th Apr, 2004 - 2:55pm / Post ID: #

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What about the 7000 plus Iraqis being detained without visitation rights by US forces?

Why is the Iraqi resistance to the the US occupation classified as a group of terrorist? Is it not normal or even expected to resist the invasion of one's country ??

I don't know were you are getting the idea that the majority of Iraqis are embracing the US invaders. Canadian, European ... news reports tell a very different story. As for your proof of Iraqi ties to Al-Qaeda, flimsy at best. These types of stories are speculatives, have no SOUND basis and could probably be found in any newspaper in any country. As a matter of fact such a story is big news in Canada these days. Some poor family with Canadian citizenship is being accused of ties to Al-Qaeda simply because a relative is suspected of knowing somebody who may be an Al-Qaeda member. In the name of justice thank God that our parliamentarians are not suffering from the paranoia syndrome so prevalent in the US these days.


17th Apr, 2004 - 8:02pm / Post ID: #

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Why is the Iraqi resistance to the the US occupation classified as a group of terrorist?


Because they are mostly Iranian, Syrian, and Saudi Arabian terrorists, who are now engaging in the most despicable type of terrorism, hostage taking.

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I don't know were you are getting the idea that the majority of Iraqis are embracing the US invaders.


There were huge reports a couple of weeks ago about various polls taken in Iraq. They found that only 15% of the Iraqi people wanted the US out now. Over 50% reported that they felt much safer, and much better off now than before April, 2003.

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As a matter of fact such a story is big news in Canada these days. Some poor family with Canadian citizenship is being accused of ties to Al-Qaeda simply because a relative is suspected of knowing somebody who may be an Al-Qaeda member.


I frequently listen to CBC2 out of Windsor. This morning I heard a report on it, (keeping in mind that CBC is extremely leftist) and they reported that two members of the immediate family had admitted funnelling money to Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations. Doesn't sound like too flimsy of evidence.

However, look at your own words. You seem to be particularly biased - "Some poor family ... a relative is suspected ...." You don't want to recognize the legitimacy of your OWN governments fight against terrorism and terrorist enablers, so any evidence of ties between Al-Qaeda and Iraq must be thrown out the window. Right?

Did you read the article? How many eye witnesses do you want to the connection? Will it be sufficient if/when Hussein admits it?

BTW, it isn't a war against Al-Qaeda. It is a war against terrorism. Who, in this entire world, outside the terrorist sympathizers, denies that Hussein's Iraq was a major sponsor, trainer, and supplier of terrorists worldwide? That is besides the mass of evidence of the Al-Qaeda/Iraq connections.

I don't know about 7000 detained Iraq citizens. Are they POWs? If so, what has the Red Cross to say about them?

Just because we are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get us.

Official estimates (from Muslims) are that 10% of Muslims have embraced the radical form of Islam that creates the terrorists. That means that about 100,000 people are actively seeking not only the destruction of the US, but of Canada, Britain, France, Germany, and everything else Western and Christian. Doesn't that include you?


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