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versus U.S.A. So, now that the USA left Iraq can the country rebuild herself and become stable?
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25th Apr, 2004 - 5:52pm / Post ID: #

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Yhayatli I do not understand your comments. if you are going to make a statement then please do so with examples or references. Just to say someone is a dictator because they don't allow weed to be used has nothing to do with this topic and is not justifiable.


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25th Apr, 2004 - 7:23pm / Post ID: #

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Personally I don't like Bush but to say that he was smiling when he was watching arab children being beated up, I don't believe it undecided.gif A person must be really evil to do that, I don't know him but I don't think he personally enjoy seeing people dying sad.gif


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25th Apr, 2004 - 7:58pm / Post ID: #

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He was referring to the Sabra & Shatilla massacres in September 1982. Many people blame Sharon for the massacres.


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28th Apr, 2004 - 2:03pm / Post ID: #

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More news from Iraq.

The Guardian, one of Britians premier newspapers, had this article yesterday about the "traditions" of Iraq alive and well in Najaf, with the recent insurgency.

Some of the traditions this Iraqi journalist points out:

  • The revolutionaries are thugs
  • They harass the local people
  • They set up their own "secret police"
  • They arrest people for religious crimes, and only Allah or Moqtada can free them
  • ". . . one man is given the holy right to lead the nation, while young kids with RPGs terrorise everyone."
This is the "insurgency" that everyone talks about as proof that the Iraqis don't want the Americans there.

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Reconcile Edited: Nighthawk on 28th Apr, 2004 - 2:05pm


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Post Date: 28th Apr, 2004 - 8:52pm / Post ID: #

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I believe President Bush made a huge mistake in attacking Iraq. We can go on and on about why, but the reasons all originate from one thing: Imperialism and Euro-Centrism.
Sure, Britain no longer occupies half of Africa, but still today Imperialism is a factor in our wars, our trading partners. Today, it it Muslims not Africans that we are biased towards. 9/11 made many people believe that all Muslims are bad, and that the Islamic Middle East is hindering our domination of the world. Also we have decided that all Middle East countries are 3rd world. Wrong, Oman is one of the richest countries in the world, but of course we are also excluding Saudi Arabia, our noble friends. Oil suppliers more like.

28th Apr, 2004 - 9:13pm / Post ID: #

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This is the "insurgency" that everyone talks about as proof that the Iraqis don't want the Americans there.


I understand your point Nighthawlk, but I'm begining to think if really is this a special 'group of insurgents' because for what I read and see on the news, the US is having a really hard time dealing with them undecided.gif and if they were only a few of them then I think the US have a more stronger military, weapons, etc to control the situation as soon as possible.


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Post Date: 30th Apr, 2004 - 11:02am / Post ID: #

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I am beginning to view Paul Bremer as a more rational guy than I did this past year. And this quote of his, in essence, captures what I want to express:

At the speech, delivered in Wheaton, Ill., Bremer, whose diplomatic jobs included a stint as ambassador-at-large for counterterrorism, said a war against terrorism would be unending.

"If you call it a war, you suggest there's a victory," he said. "I would argue there is no final victory in the war against terrorism any more than there is in the so-called war against crime."



https://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...d=544&ncid=1473


Sigh ...... when do we know if we have 'won' the war on terrorism? Its never-ending.

30th Apr, 2004 - 1:34pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (LDS_forever @ 28-Apr 04, 5:13 PM)
but I'm begining to think if really is this a special 'group of insurgents' because for what I read and see on the news, the US is having a really hard time dealing with them

You might try reading some of the alternative news sources. The warblogs, which include some active duty military, as well as a lot of close contacts, say that it is nowhere near as tough as it sounds.

There is apparently a lot of strategy and tactics being applied, including hit-and-run attacks in Najaf to draw out the "thugs" (as a resident of Najaf described them), as these thugs run to where the attack occurs, AC-130's, the ultimate ground support aircraft, open up. This is done at night, when the AC-130 really shines, literally. The multiple mini-guns shoot tracers, and it apparently looks like something out of a sci-fi movies.

This isn't Vietnam. It isn't a quagmire. It is a ground war. And the US is winning.

That doesn't mean that the political will of the US citizens won't crumble, especially under the daily onslaught of the Leftist media and the socialist Democrats continuously hammering their lies about it all.

The one thing we have really learned over the last few weeks is that if this IS another Vietnam, maybe the military learned something. The Tet Offensive, which is normally seen as a huge victory for the Viet Cong, was actually a huge victory for the US. It was just that the media lied, and caused the US political will to crumble. I think that there are enough of us who know better now, with enough alternative news sources available, for the truth to become available.

Just because ABCCBCNBCCNNMSNBC all want to follow Al Jazeera, doesn't mean that the rest of us will.


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