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Yes, there was mild torture. My point was that MOST of it was no more than hazing rituals at US (and other) colleges. That doesn't decrease how horrifying it is for most US citizens to learn that some of our soldiers acted so stupidly.

As for the Holy Cities, mosques, or whatever else. The insurgents, who the Iraqis reject, think that they can use the morals of the US against us. They know that we take extra care to leave such things alone. However, when churches, mosques, even hospitals and schools, become military bases, ammunition storage, or staging areas, they lose any of their protection. One of these days, the insurgents will understand that. Of course, they really do understand it, they just know that they can get ignorant people around the world to support their murderous agenda by forcing the US to attack them there.

Start with this message, then proceed to read some more of the weblog it is on. Start reading some of the milblogs, especially some like Chief Wiggles, and see what the soldiers, IN IRAQ are reporting back about it all.

From what I can see, you are ONLY reading the liberal media's point of view. You are rejecting ALL the good news coming out of Iraq. That is exactly why I try to post such things here. I guess it doesn't surprise me that you reject them, but I will keep posting them anyway.

Update:
While reading some more of the blog, I found this quote:

As the writer points out, these are the common people in a small village in southern Iraq. These are the feelings of the real people of Iraq, not the intellectuals, not the militants, not the ones who live within a couple of blocks of the hotels where all the reporters stay, and where they write their copy.

Over 135,000 soldiers are on the ground. They overwhelmingly report that they have good relations with the Iraqi people.

Update 2:

Are you KIDDING? This trash started from Al Jazeera, and the Islamists are spreading it!

Edited: Nighthawk on 16th May, 2004 - 6:15pm

Iraq War Post

CAR BOMB KILLS IRAQI GOVERNING COUNCIL LEADER

The current president of the Iraqi Governing Council was among several people
killed Monday in a suicide car bombing near Baghdad's Green Zone, a council
official said.
Ref. CNN Breaking News

DID BUSH POLICY SPUR IRAQ ABUSE?

The Iraq prisoner abuse scandal shifted Sunday to the question of whether the Bush administration set up a legal foundation that opened the door for the mistreatment.
Ref. https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C...63737%2C00.html

IRAQIS PUSH ITALIANS FROM BASE

Fighters loyal to radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr drove Italian forces from a base in the southern city of Nasiriyah on Sunday and attacked coalition headquarters there with grenade and mortar fire as tensions in the Shiite region escalated. Two U.S. soldiers died elsewhere.
Ref. https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C...63701%2C00.html

Post War Iraq History & Civil Business Politics

More news from/about Iraq.

https://www.boblonsberry.com/writings.cfm?story=1400&go=4
SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE NEWS

A great article outlining some of the differences between what we hear in the news these days, about Iraq, vs what was told in earlier times.

Quick, have you heard of one medal given for bravery in this conflict?

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https://www.blackfive.net/main/2004/05/judge_us_by_our.html
"Judge Us By Our Actions"

This is an email from a Marine Colonel in Iraq. There is a lot of information about how Abu Ghraib has affected the Middle East, and, more importantly, how it is seen in Iraq. You'll be surprised.

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To me US Citizens at any level are very patriotic so we must ask - Why is that? Is it that the journalists think the valor is not as worthwhile to the public as much as the struggles of the Iraqi or is it that the media in general ae also against the war? Maybe it is a question of what sells or is it that their view from the ground seems very different from what they are fed by Military PR?

Iraq War Post

I think it is evidence of strong media bias. Most of the US media buys into the Leftist/Socialist/Communist ideologies. Not the quote that said "Accounts of American valor are dismissed by the press as propaganda, yet accounts of American difficulties are heralded as objectivity"

They CAN'T support propaganda (in their minds) because it is not objective. But republishing Islamist propaganda is considered very objective. In fact, any information that supports the US position in any way is considered non-objective and will not be printed.

BTW, did you hear about the sarin (nerve gas, WMD) IED that was used (fortunately unsuccessfully) in Iraq? It seems the "insurgents" know where the stockpiles of Saddam's weapons are, as they are using them to make the IEDs.

But of course the news media wouldn't report it. There was no sarin in Iraq, right?

Post War Iraq

It's tough being a soldier here in Iraq. Morale is picking up now , thanks to internet services , phones. But when the war first kicked off their was nothing. No toilets , phones , showers , or messhall. Just one big desert. We did'nt even sleep in a tent at first. We would sleep on the hood of our trucks in a sleeping bag. When we were in need of a shower. We take our helments off and fill it up with water. Get a bar of soap and get busy. Female soldier's had to do the same. I've been in the army for 12 years so I'm use to it. The one thing that the younger soldier's and the female solder's have a hard time dealing with. Is going to the bathroom squating while your battle buddy is providing security for you with his M-16. I must admit it takes a while to get use to. The temperatures are starting to rise. Yesterday it was a 110 degrees inside the tent. Now just add 10 more degrees to that because of all the body armor we wear. In July temperatures will reach 150 degrees. Now that is hot!!!!!! The summer's last up to October. When I return from this deployment in Jan. 05 it will be nice and cold back in Germany. (my duty station) I will jump into a pile of snow and just roll around in it.

Post War Iraq - Page 50

Thanks for sharing that, have you seen any action? Would you say that the Iraqis are glad the US is there or not?

Post War Iraq Politics Business Civil & History - Page 50

Since I'm out on the road everyday transporting everything from water to ammo. I would have to say yes and no. Some Iraqi's will wave at us and show us love. But their are the others who take pop shots at us , throw rocks , giving us the finger , shouting death to u.s.a. as we pass , or the ultimate disrespect here in Iraq. They will take their shoe off and show you the bottom of their shoe. When they do that to you it's telling you that you are dirt you are beneath them. If you do that to a muslim over here, they would want to kill you. These attitudes towards Americans existed way before the prison abuse. But overall , I would say the Iraqi's want us gone. Not to mention all the I.E.D. that they place out in the road. These Iraqi's can make an I.E.D. out of a coke can , a wallet , pringle's potato chip can. They even put I.E.D.'S inside of dead animals in the road. I know I don't feel wanted here.