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  Bush did and is doing the right thing       27.12%
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  It started well, but seems to be ending bad       13.56%
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  Saddam needed to be removed, but not in this way       16.95%
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1st Jun, 2004 - 6:11pm / Post ID: #

Post War Iraq - Page 52

Lots of different types of news today.

Start with the OpinionJournal, about how US Marines are successfully pacifying Fallujah.
https://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/b...r/?id=110005152

Then an article in US News about how al-Sadr underestimated his support in Najaf, and how his insurrection is backfiring on him and his "cause".
https://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040607/usnews/7najaf.htm

On National Review Online, Kate O'Beirn has written about the soldiers you won't hear about from the media. Included in her article are the short stories of three Navy Cross recipients and several Silver Star recipients. These are true stories of courage, valor, and integrity.
https://www.nationalreview.com/kob/kob200405280824.asp

Chrenkoff has interviewed a man who survived the Warsaw uprisings in WWII. He has an extremely interesting point of view about Iraq. I really recommend that you read this.
https://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2004_05_30_c...604826777232870

Enough for now. I tried to explore my own feelings and thoughts about war on my new weblog. If you are interested, click on the www icon below this post.


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Post Date: 1st Jun, 2004 - 10:42pm / Post ID: #

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SUNNI GOVERNING COUNCIL CHIEF NAMED NEW IRAQI PRESIDENT

A powerful Sunni Muslim tribal leader and critic of the U.S.-led occupation was named president of Iraq's incoming government Tuesday, after Iraqi leaders rejected the Americans' preferred candidate for the post.
Ref. https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C...67281%2C00.html

Known Info:

Sheikh Ghazi Mashal Ajil al-Yawer, a "northern tribal figure (Sunni)," al-Yawer is "a civil engineer who spent 15 years based in Saudi Arabia. He is a close relative of Sheikh Mohsen Adil al-Yawar, head of the powerful Shamar tribe, which comprises both Sunnis and Shia."
Ref. https://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?tit...l_Ajil_al-Yawer

2nd Jun, 2004 - 7:04pm / Post ID: #

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I found an excellent analysis of recent US strategy in Iraq. It is located here. It is long, it is complex, and it is very deep. But I tend to agree with it. I had already read some stories about how the Marines have successfully calmed Fallujah, and this ties in very well.

Since that one was so interesting, I started looking for some other analyses. So far, I have only found one, and I find it very disturbing. This one seems to start with the assumption that the US is, and always has been, an evil imperialistic society. It makes claims about US soldiers in Fallujah and other places that I can't see happening at all (knowing what type of people are in the US Army and Marines). However, it is a thorough analysis of the situation. I think it is wrong, but I offer it as an alternative to the other things I post here.


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4th Jun, 2004 - 1:14pm / Post ID: #

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Why is there such a negative opinion about US involvement in Iraq? I keep asking this, wondering why so many people refuse to see that there is a lot of positive things happening there.

Actually, I know why. It is because war is only popular to the socialist left when it degrades the US security and prominence in the world. Anything done to build up, protect, or support the US is considered the height of evil, even when it stops real evil.

Read this article in ChronWatch for some perspective on HOW this is happening.

How many heroes have you heard about from Iraq (besides those I have posted about here)? The present-day media wouldn't report on Audie Murphy, if they had been around during WWII.

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      The media have the power to decide what stories from Iraq are reported, and how the stories are treated.  If it weren't for smaller news outlets and the Internet, few of us would even realize that we are being deliberately and systematically robbed of Iraq war heroes.  Few of us would realize how many people of how many nations are with us in this war, and how well they are doing in our common fight against terrorism.

      The New York Times will probably never report the story of Corporal Samuel Toloza, one of 380 soldiers from El Salvador, which was carried in the Washington Times.  Corporal Toloza, out of ammunition, bravely defended fallen members of his unit from Iraqi insurgents.  He charged the enemy, armed only with a knife.  ''One of his friends was dead, 12 others lay wounded, and the four soldiers still left standing were surrounded and out of ammunition.  So Salvadoran Cpl. Samuel Toloza said a prayer, whipped out his knife, and charged the Iraqi gunmen."  The Iraqis broke, and more Coalition troops arrived before they could regroup.  Phil Kosnett, who heads the CPA in Najaf, has nominated six El Salvadorans for the Bronze Star.  ''These guys are punching way above their weight,'' Kosnett said.  ''They're probably the bravest and most professional troops I've every worked with.''  Yet their story is almost completely buried by the mainstream media's endless liturgy of doom, gloom, and quagmire.

      You will probably never see the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders mentioned on ABC, CBS or NBC.  When attacked by over 100 of Moqtada al-Sadr's so-called militia (in reality a gang of thugs with a religious motif), the 20 or so soldiers fixed bayonets and mounted a 19-century style charge.  Taking only three casualties, the Scots captured or killed 35 of the enemy.  No American media outlet saw fit to even mention this action, except those who carry Mark Steyn's opinion column.  Not one seems to have thought of the Highlanders' action as newsworthy.

      Last but certainly not least, no major media outlet seems to have reported the brave self-sacrifice of Marine Corporal Jason Dunham except The Wall Street Journal.  When a would-be terrorist captured during a traffic stop dropped a live grenade, Cpl. Dunham apparently pulled off his helmet and slammed it down on the grenade, covering it with his own body.  He saved not only two nearby fellow Marines, but any civilians in the other cars in line as well.  Lt. Col. Lopez has recommended Cpl. Dunham for the Congressional Medal of Honor.  ''His personal action was far beyond the call of duty and saved the lives of his fellow Marines,'' he wrote.  The last Medals of Honor were awarded to the two Army Delta Force soldiers who gave their lives to protect a downed helicopter pilot in Somalia in 1993.

      Why are the majority of news outlets ignoring these stories of bravery, honor, and self-sacrifice?  Soldiers are only newsworthy, it seems, when their deaths can be used to turn popular opinion against President Bush and/or the liberation of Iraq.  What right do ''journalists'' have to rob us of our heroes just to serve their anti-war, anti-Bush agenda--and still call themselves neutral?  It's long past time to see through the lies and look at the mainstream media for what they really are.


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13th Jun, 2004 - 6:38pm / Post ID: #

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I know that most of you think I am obsessive about justifying the US's involvement in Iraq. The thing is, I see lots and lots and lots and lots of articles and opinions stating that the US is evil and wicked for invading Iraq, that there is no such thing as WMDs in Iraq, that "Bush lied, people died", and all the rest.

I see lots of people, here and in other places, speaking for the Iraqi people, telling me how the Iraqis REALLY don't want us there, how they hate us for trying to impose liberty, etc.

The thing is, I read articles and blogs that tell me exactly the opposite. In particular, I read several blogs written by Iraqis, telling the world what THEY think about these things. I read the posts written by many soldiers, telling of the wonderful relations they are having with Iraqi people. I read comments by Iraqis (and other Arabs) who thank God that the Americans actually did something about the horrible state that they were forced to live in.

I know that many of you don't believe me. But it is true.

Here is one particularly eloquent Iraqi. Read this particular article, then I urge you to browse his blog. See what someone actually in the action has to say.
https://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/


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14th Jun, 2004 - 3:08am / Post ID: #

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I read that one article, Nighthawk, but haven't browsed through the rest of the blog. Very interesting to me, because we don't hear any of this on mainstream media. It takes the Internet and independent people to voice their views, and other dedicated folk to lead us to those views. Thanks.

Roz


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Post Date: 16th Jun, 2004 - 1:18pm / Post ID: #

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Breaking News!

Commission reports "no credible evidence" that al Qaeda and Iraq cooperated in 9/11 attacks on United States.

Ref. https://www.cnn.com

18th Jun, 2004 - 10:21am / Post ID: #

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More (or less) Breaking News!
https://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/fe...ml?id=110005237
Spinning 9/11
The press ignores the commission's most interesting findings.

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Yet nearly all of the media coverage has focused on what the 9/11 panel claims it didn't find--namely, smoking-gun proof that al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein were working together. The country has traveled a long way psychologically from the trauma of September 11 if we are now focusing on the threats that allegedly don't exist instead of those that certainly do.

Or, to be more precise, we're further from 9/11 but very close to an election. The "no Saddam link" story is getting so much play because it fits the broader antiwar, anti-Bush narrative that Iraq was a "distraction" from the broader war on terror. So once again the 9/11 Commission is being used to tarnish the Iraqi effort and damage President Bush's credibility in fighting terror. John Kerry surely thinks so because he jumped on the coverage to once again assail Mr. Bush on Iraq.

Even here, though, the staff report is less a "slam dunk," as the CIA likes to say, than the coverage asserts. We are supposed to believe, for example, that the Commission has found out once and for all that there was no meeting in Prague between the Iraqi agent al-Ani and 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta. But the only new evidence the report turns up is that some calls were made from Florida on Atta's cell phone at the same time he was reportedly in Prague. And since that phone would not have worked in Europe anyway, how do we know someone else wasn't using it? The Czechs still believe the Atta meeting took place, and the truth is we still don't know for sure.

There's also the testimony the Commission heard Wednesday from Patrick Fitzgerald. The former Manhattan prosecutor was asked about his 1998 indictment against Osama bin Laden that asserted that al Qaeda had an "understanding" with Iraq that it would not "work against that government" and that "on certain projects, specifically including weapons development," they would "work cooperatively." Mr. Fitzgerald testified that "there was that relationship that went from opposing each other to not opposing each other to possibly working with each other."


There is more, especially about the links between Al Qaeda and Iran. A very interesting read.


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