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versus U.S.A. So, now that the USA left Iraq can the country rebuild herself and become stable?
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8th Dec, 2004 - 2:12pm / Post ID: #

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Maicman said:

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if I would be an islam follower I will strongly consider ....something that if I talk about here I will have my post deleted


MrB said:
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If you talk about it you will sent to nice trip to Cuba., it's called American justice...hang high naive right wing americans (those that voted for Bush)



First of all, this board is subject to rules made by the board architect. Secondly, we welcome those of the Islamic faith who are - as everyone else who joins - willing to follow the rules. Third, personal attacks against specific groups of people and name calling is not allowed in this Forum. Please limit your comments to the topic at hand, and read the FAQs about constructive posting.

This discussion is getting way off the original topic of Post-War Iraq.


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Post Date: 8th Dec, 2004 - 3:04pm / Post ID: #

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Farseer, I cannot see in the texts referred to, any name calling of groups or individuals. Certainly, nothing compared to CNN.

The criticism was a sharp point at the US justice system in regard to the treatment of Iraqis prisoners which I believe is quite in line with the subject.. The real point is, how can the US take the high ground?

9th Dec, 2004 - 6:11pm / Post ID: #

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I have been staying out of this discussion for a while, since I got tired of the continuous implications that Americans are "stooopid", greedy, stupid, foolish, warmongers, who can't get it through their stupid heads that there was no valid reason on earth to go into Iraq.

Fine, that is what some of you want to think, I don't care. I just hope that none of you hunkering down in Canada, France, or whatever other country ever have to actually stand up and face the music. However, I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Since I have been ignoring this topic, I have failed to post the latest "Good News from Iraq" entry. Here it is:
https://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2004/12/good...aq-part-16.html
Good News from Iraq, Part 16
And a sample:

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It takes a lot to get a man of God annoyed and Louis Sako, the Chaldean Archbishop of Kirkuk, is a very frustrated man these dyas: "It is not all death and destruction," says the Archbishop. "Much is positive in Iraq today... Universities are operating, schools are open, people go out onto the streets normally... Where there's a kidnapping or a homicide the news gets out immediately, and this causes fear among the people... Those who commit such violence are resisting against Iraqis who want to build their country."

It's not just the terrorists who, according to His Eminence, are creating problems for Iraq: "[January] will be a starting point for a new Iraq... [Yet] Western newspapers and broadcasters are simply peddling propaganda and misinformation... Iraqis are happy to be having elections and are looking forward to them because they will be useful for national unity... Perhaps not everything will go exactly to plan, but, with time, things will improve. Finally Iraqis will be given the chance to choose. Why is there so much noise and debate coming out from the West when before, under Saddam, there were no free elections, but no one said a thing?"

Lastly, the Archbishop has this wish for the international bystanders: "Europe is absent, it's not out there; the United States is on its own... [Europe] must help the Iraqi government to control its borders to prevent the entry of foreign terrorists, [but] also provide economic help to encourage a new form of culture which is open to coexistence, the acceptance of others, respect for the human person and for other cultures... Europe must understand that there is no time to waste on marginal or selfish interests: The entire world needs peace."

Archbishop Sako's frustration is increasingly shared by other Iraqis, who can hardly recognize their country from the foreign media coverage. Westerners, too, both military and civilians, upon their return are often finding to their surprise and concern they had lived and worked in a different country to that their loved ones, friends and neighbors back home saw every night on the news. "Our" Iraq is a place of violence, uncertainty, and frustration; "their" Iraq all that, too, but also so much more: work and renewal, hope and enthusiasm, new opportunities and new possibilities. Here are the last two weeks' worth of stories you might have missed while watching "our" Iraq on the news:


There is a lot more in there - pages and pages. But of course, since most of you are convinced that the "stoooopid" Americans can't get anything right, especially since the French and Germans didn't give their blessings to the operation, I don't expect that there will be much learning going on from this bit of news.


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Post Date: 10th Dec, 2004 - 9:53am / Post ID: #

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With that open minded attitude of yours no one can argue ! In deed is wrong to accuse anybody for all the wrong things happened there. Especially if most of the ones, those that could "not stand up and face the music" accuse, have nothing to do what so ever with what is happening half away the globe. They just watch TV.

No one say that the intentions are not good and that eventually the results will show. Even now there are some things that changed for the better. But, came on do you see nothing wrong there, nothing at all?

10th Dec, 2004 - 1:29pm / Post ID: #

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Why should I point out the bad things that are going on? We have now, and have had previously, so many people who make it very clear just how "stooopid" (best Dexter voice applied here) the "stooopid" Americans are, 1) for electing GWB, 2) for supporting the invasion of Iraq, 3) for thinking that the use of force might actually have an effect on Islamist terrorism.

BTW, if you read my blog thread for yesterday, you will see that there was more than a bit of frustration getting worked off in this thread.

Back to Iraq.

A million+ Assyrian Christians had been praying for about 2 decades for the Americans to come in and get rid of Hussein. I believe in the power of prayer. Does that mean that GWB and the US are God's instruments for the destruction of Hussein? I don't know. I certainly am not going to speak for Him.

However, I do believe that it was right for us to go in there. It is long, difficult, and painful. But if you read the "Good News from Iraq" entries, along with a few of the Iraqi blogs, you will see that many of the Iraqi people also think it was a very good thing for us to go in there.

The pictures of the mass graves was all I needed to overcome any reservations that I might have had. The stories of the "children's prisons" was just icing on the cake.


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12th Dec, 2004 - 5:29pm / Post ID: #

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Why should I point out the bad things that are going on?


Because it is important to be impartial and acknowledge that not all that went on in Iraq was done properly, I think when this is acknowledge it creates more credibility than just merely points out the positive aspects.


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12th Dec, 2004 - 8:15pm / Post ID: #

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But there are already so very many, including many on this very forum, who ONLY point out the bad things. I am just trying to balance it out a little bit. If we only listened to the BBC, CBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al-Jazeera, etc, which obviously most people DO, then there is no balance whatsoever.

I will continue to post the good news.


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12th Dec, 2004 - 8:34pm / Post ID: #

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But there are already so very many, including many on this very forum, who ONLY point out the bad things


True, but what's the reaction when someone points out the bad things?. They are label as anti-US, or anti-Bush or that the reports we get from Iraq are not accurate. undecided.gif

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I will continue to post the good news.


Good, I was not planning to stop the controversial man of the forum anyway wink.gif


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