I think it will be many years before Iraq ever becomes a democracy like the US, if it does. As Euroyank correctly pointed out, you can not change a tribal cuture that has been that way for hundreds of years into a democracy overnight.
This ridiculous imperial crusade to make every country like "ours" is criminal and will fail. If the people in the middle east want democracy I am certain they will uprise or at least reach out to create one. This should be their decision, not forced on them by arrogant bullies from far away lands.
As for the US leaving Iraq. JB, they may very well have a timframe to pull out in two years, definitely before the next US election, but if they are serious about securing that country you could be looking at 5-10 years. Otherwise it will end up just like Afghanistan. It's a terrible situation that the coalition has gotten themselves into and the world will be carefully watching how they get out of it and what state they leave Iraq in.
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Vietnam vets in Iraq see 'entirely different war'
By Steven Komarow, USA TODAY
TIKRIT, Iraq - Before dawn, the pilots digest their intelligence briefing with coffee. The sun rises as they start preflight checks. Just after 7:30, they start rotors turning on their UH-60A Black Hawk, and ease it smoothly into the desert sky.
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CHENEY: IRAQ WILL BE 'ENORMOUS SUCCESS STORY'
Vice President Dick Cheney on Thursday defended his recent comment that the Iraqi insurgency was in its "last throes," insisting that progress being made in setting up a new Iraqi government and establishing democracy there will indeed end the violence -- eventually.
Ref. https://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/23/che...view/index.html
I can't really understand Dick Cheney in his latest interview.
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"We will succeed in Iraq, just like we did in Afghanistan. We will stand up a new government under an Iraqi-drafted constitution. We will defeat that insurgency, and, in fact, it will be an enormous success story." |
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RUMSFELD EXPECTS IRAQ TO GET WORSE
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Sunday he is bracing for even more violence in Iraq and acknowledged that the insurgency "could go on for any number of years."
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Bush to ask teetering Americans for resolve in Iraq
President Bush now faces one of the major challenges of his presidency. In a prime-time speech on Tuesday, he will try to convince war-weary Americans that the unpopular campaign in Iraq is worthwhile despite spiking violence that makes claims of progress increasingly difficult.
Ref. https://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/20...sh-speech_x.htm
Does anyone else here believe the Bush administration is sending mixed signals on how long they believe the war will go on?
Cheney the other day said the insurgency was in "its last throes". Rumsfeld only days later said it could take many years, and now Bush is calling on his citizens to be patient and the loss of life is worth it.
This is a wire report on Bush's speech today, published on a Sydney broadsheet website:
Bush's latest Iraq speech
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Mr Bush said he knew Americans were questioning whether the heavy sacrifices in Iraq - more than 1700 Americans dead - was worth it. "It is worth it, and it is vital to the future security of our country," he said |
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"The only way our enemies can succeed is if we forget the lessons of September 11 - if we abandon the Iraqi people to men like Zarqawi and if we yield the future of the Middle East to men like bin Laden." "For the sake of our nation's security, this will not happen on my watch," Mr Bush said. |
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Did one woman's obsession take America to war?
She is a conspiracy theorist whose political conceits have consistently been proved wrong. So why were Bush and his aides so keen to swallow Laurie Mylroie's theories on Saddam and terrorism?
Ref. https://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1254072,00.html