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Just when I was beginning to believe that there will be distinct changes in the way the US is handling Iraq:

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Here are a few comments about the recently released "report" from the "Iraq Study Group."

https://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53298
Kurds see nightmare in Baker Iraq report

https://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53269
Terrorists rejoicing over new Iraq 'plan'
Reaction to Study Group: 'Allah and his angels' responsible, 'era of Islam and of jihad' declared

Very little searching on the web shows a lot more similar articles. The "report" is simply a call for the US to cut and run, and leave Iraq to the sectarian violence, especially our allies in the North.

Of course, I fully expect that this is what we will do. The terrorists won. It is all over but the shouting. We can expect to see a lot more violence in the future.

Edited: Nighthawk on 9th Dec, 2006 - 1:44pm

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Honestly, I do not think it matters if the US cuts and runs or stays - either way it is a lost case scenario mostly because what the US wanted for Iraq is not what the majority of Iraqis wanted for Iraq. You may ask how I know this? Well, I think every day is a testimony of it, the chaos, the blood shed, the lack of law, etc. The US once helped Saddam gain power, now they took it away from him - it is a case of you went to far and did not do as we instructed, so now you pay. Sadly, the little boys and girls in the streets of Iraq do not know the difference.

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I can't honestly believe you think the violence in Iraq is due to terrorism? It has nothing to do with terrorism or Al-Quaeda! Even Bush has accepted this is plain nonsense.

The problem for the Kurds is they are very much a minority enjoying a disproportionate amount of power and position in Iraq without any security. Personally, I believe the US should help them establish their own state, but there is no way Turkey would allow this. There is also no way the other tribes in Iraq would want it because the north is oil rich.

The US-led Iraq catastrophe, which has cost an estimated 655,000 lives and still counting, is beyond repair for the US. This isn't a matter of cut and run. The US presence in Iraq is contributing resentment, which leads to violence. They are also not having any sort of meaningful impact on security. They have tried to train Iraqis, the troops never had enough personnel or support thanks to the useless Rumsfeld. Now the truth is sectarian violence is far too big a problem for a misguided military and police force to solve. The problem is also that different sects control the military, there is no independence for this organization.

The US, much like the other Coalition goofs, have to accept that they failed. It's simple. Now what must happen must be in the best interest of the people and clearly US forces occupying the country is not that. The UN must step in and neighbouring countries with influence such as Iran must be summoned.

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I doubt either of those two will do anything, especially not Iran (see below). This is not Haiti, which the UN is still getting trouble controlling, this is a large country with borders open on all sides. Actually the Iraqi war reminds me of the movie 'Blackhawk Down', those of you who have seen it can make an easy comparison.

I definitely would not bring in Iran on this, they need to stay far away if anything, we do not want war breaking out between those two again. Iran is led by dictator with a vendetta - not the kind of guy that helps peace - but that is another Thread.

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Actually Iran has a lot of sway over the Shiite community in Iraq. So I think they can have a role to play. This is a sectarian civil war caused by a power vacuum. You need influence on both sides to stop it. I don't know the answer, however Iran can have a far more positive impact on the Shiites than the US currently is.

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I do not have any of the answers either, but I honestly believe that any Iranian involvement won't be towards a restoration of Iraq or the Iraqi people, if anything it will be to throw its (Irans) arm longer, further and deeper into Iraq.

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Ah I see, we are back to the "terrorist love democrats" type argument. Terrorist rejoicing at the US leaving Iraq. Of course they are, as are all muslims. It is in Muslim religious laws to keep all non-muslims off muslim lands. Why does it matter what the terrorists think any way, we didn't go in after terrorist. And which terrorists are celebrating our possible leaving? I don't remember seeing a terrorist quote about us leaving. I remember seeing people happy we are leaving, but there was not terrorist identifying mark that I recall. So who decides the terrorist are celebrating?

Of course, no one wants to admit its a civil war caused by the US invasion and removal of Saddam "wacko dictator" Hussein. His brutal strong military arm was all that held the three hating muslim factions off each others throats. What is going on in Iraq is by definition a sectarian civil war. Its not called cut and run when everyone wants you out. They want to settle it themselves, we caused it, so why is it cut and run? We made a serious mistake, but Bush can't even admit his mistake. He says he will accept no plan that is a bad idea, but he accepts his own which is a proven bad idea.

Its time that the republicans stop coming up with nifty catch phrases like "cut and run' "stay the course" and "defeatocrats" and start coming up with ideas on how to stop dying in another country that doesn't want us there! Of course, when a bi-partisan group comes up with an idea and the president says its crap, your in for more blood and guts. The president will never approve a withdrawal or anyone elses suggestions because he is a bull headed fool! That commission was made up of people who know war and war policy, and he discarded them like they were nothing!

Its high time people start listening to those who know instead of our bull headed president who listens only to himself and a couple people. People all around him including high up generals are telling him we cannot win this war anymore, but he won't listen. Whats worse, about thirty percent of america is backing him up, buying into this ludicrous stay the course get the job done crap. But what do you do when you CAN'T get the job done?