I am not sure that everyone wants us out of Iraq. I totally agree that the majority will be happy to see us go, but there is that group in the north that will be "screwed" again if we leave. The Kurds have stood up to Sadam following the 1st war and look what they got...they have stood up for their rights in the 2nd war and if we pull out. After the 1st war, we pumped them full of pride, hope and the thought of support and what did they actually get...Chemical Ali's Toxic Cloud. Now they think they have a unity government, which from all appearances seems to be falling apart. While the Sunni's and the Shiite's don't exactly have a whole lot of love for each other, everyone there definitely hates the Kurds.
When we leave (and we will), I do hope that there is some effort to at least leave some forces to protect the Kurds.
In thinking on this for a while, I am quickly coming to the conclusion that Iraq needs to do what the former Yugoslavia did and split up. Hopefully, the last thing that the "Unity Government" can do before the bottom falls out or that GWB & Co can do before escaping, would be to propose some boarders. I actually think it can be done because of the segregation already, but there are many more minorities in Iraq than we usually hear about.
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ALL EX-SADDAM SOLDIERS CAN RETURN TO ARMY: IRAQI PM
Iraq's army has "opened its doors" to all former members of Saddam Hussein's army, the prime minister said Saturday, in a move aimed to win over disaffected Sunnis.
Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200.../iraq-army.html
This is a good move, this gives constructive use to a sizable group of "trained soldiers" that until now were armed and poor. Now the various warring factions are denied the use of them.
On the topic of when will the occupation end, they never really do. After WWII, the United States maintained its presence there until... we're still there. This is not a bad thing, if the US establishes bases in Iraq it can only help to stabilize the region in the future.
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WWII, the United States maintained its presence there until... we're still there. This is not a bad thing, if the US establishes bases in Iraq it can only help to stabilize the region in the future. |
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Often the world does ask the US Army to go solve a problem. Many of the current overseas operations for the US Army are the continued "assistance" to UN operations. If the US were to simply leave after a military victory had been achieved, the problem would simply return. In any armed conflict there is quite an investment in time and money, letting the problem simply return would be irresponsible.
As to who asked the US to come into Iraq, the Kurds for one. Their only complaint was that were were 10 years late. The UN gave US forces authority over the region at the conclusion of Operation Desert Strom.
The US has been forced into the role of the world's police. When US forces stay in a region to prevent future conflicts, the world should understand that it is for the continued stability of the region.
To look at another country as an example of what not to do, you would look to France. This post is getting rather long so if anyone wants to look up information on French military actions in Africa, feel free.
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The US has been forced into the role of the world's police. When US forces stay in a region to prevent future conflicts, the world should understand that it is for the continued stability of the region. |
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SADDAM'S DEATH SENTENCE UPHELD BY APPEAL COURT
An appeal court has upheld the death sentence imposed on ousted Iraqi president Saddam Hussein at his first trial, the country's national security adviser said Tuesday.
Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200.../26/saddam.html
Interesting stories in the wake of the hanging announcement:
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There is no official job of "hangman" in Iraq, and an adviser to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki says the government has not officially advertised for the job. The executioner, moreover, will remain anonymous because Saddam's execution could inflame tensions in a country where people die every day in sectarian violence. But hundreds of Iraqis have inquired about the hangman's job. The adviser, Bassam al-Husseiny, told the US network ABC News that he received about eight to 10 phone calls a day -- and 20 to 30 e-mails -- by Iraqis who wanted to execute Saddam. The candidates came from all three of the country's major religions and from all walks of life, he said -- from high-level government officials to "the tea boy." |
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'Saddam letter' urges Iraqis not to hate invaders 27/12/2006 - 15:14:24 In an internet letter in the name of Saddam Hussein, the deposed dictator has called on Iraqis not to hate the invaders of their country. "I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking," Saddam said in the letter published on a website known to represent the Baath Party. "I also call on you not to hate the people of the other countries that attacked us and who separated the people and from those who govern them," Saddam wrote. The statement was released after it was revealed an appeals court decision upholding Saddam Hussein's death sentence is final and does not require the approval of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani. |
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