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Mormon Calling And Election Made Sure

What does it mean to have your Calling and Election Made Sure? I have seen some references that have said there is an actual ceremony in the temple for this called the Second Annointing and it is still practiced today. However, those few that receive this ordinance are under strict obligation not to reveal they have had this done.

Some have expressed once you have had your calling and election made sure, then if you commit great sins after this, it does not matter because you have been assured of exaltation. Others have said just the opposite. Once you have your calling and election made sure and then commit serious transgression, you become a Son of Perdition.

Any comments? Anybody know of anyone who has achieved this?

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I do not know much about this, but I cannot imagine anything being so 'sure' that you can simply sin and then be automatically saved since that is contrary to the scriptures.

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To have your Calling and Election made Sure is to have the Lord, Jesus Christ, come to you in person and seal you up into the Celestial Kingdom. According to the Doctrine and Covenants, only the unforgiveable sin will then stop a person from receiving a crown of glory.

The above was taken from a document on my website, Making Your Calling and Election Sure. There is a lot of good information in the booklet.

As far as the additional ordinances are concerned. There is an ordinance called the Second Annointing. My understanding is that once a person has had the Lord pronounce that his Calling and Election are made Sure, that then the Second Annointing is applied.

Once the Second Annointing is applied, only the Lord can take further action against that person. For example, Bishop Koyle, of the "Dream Mine" received his Second Annointing. Later, the authorities of the church publicly humiliated him (he was extremely advanced in age, at least in his mid 80s). They told him that if he didn't sign a paper denouncing the mine, he and all of his associates would be excommunicated (this was Mark E. Peterson who did this). He was promised that there would be absolutely no publicity around this action. Finally, this tired, old man signed the statement. The next day it was published in the Deseret News about how he had publicly admitted that it was all a fraud (which it wasn't). He defiantly continued his meetings concerning the mine, so the Church "excommunicated" him publicly.

The only problem is, his records don't show it. After receiving the Second Annointing, people can't be excommunicated. Only the Lord can take action against them.

IMO, this is because they have moved beyond the authority of the Telestial Church, as they are now part of, at least, the Terrestial Church, the Church of the Firstborn.

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I think the key to what Nighthawk has presented is just because the Church here on earth can't take disciplinary action such as ex-communication it doesn't mean you have a free ride to the Celestial kingdom. It just means man in his mortal state can't make that determination. The Lord will still hold this person accountable for their actions.

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Once a person has received their Calling and Election, they are guaranteed entry into the Celestial Kingdom. I believe it also means that they are guaranteed exaltation within it.

Of course, this doesn't apply if they commit the unpardonable sin.

In order for a person to attain this blessing, they have already pretty much overcome all tendency to sin. They may still make mistakes and errors, or sin in ignorance, but there won't be deliberate sins. If there ARE, then that might actually BE the unpardonable sin.

There is a nice website where someone has gathered a lot of "official" information about the Calling and Election, as well as other subjects (Second Comforter, Baptism of Fire, Ministering of Angels).
https://home.comcast.net/~mevans41/greaterthings/

Obviously, not an official church source, but from what I can see, very official sources, including Ensign articles, writings by Apostles and Prophets, and scriptural examples.

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This doesn't mean the Lord won't call them to repentance first. In order for a person to have received this election the Lord has to know them very well (as he does all of us) and he knows what they are capable of and what they are not. In the event they do something "unexpected" there is no way they can receive exaltation without repentance. That goes against the order and justice which the Lord himself sets forth in his Church.

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This doesn't preclude the need for repentance, but it does say that it would be impossible for such a person to fail, other than to become a son of perdition.

This subject, along with the Baptism of Fire (a prerequisite for making your Calling and Election Sure) are the two most important subjects I know of concerning the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Everything else leads to these two events. Without them, we are simply on a spiritual plateau, thinking that the slight hillocks are great mountains of spirituality.

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Interesting comments from everyone. I'll have to work on this. Do any of you know anyone who claims to have had their calling and election made sure? Can you be deceived into thinking you have received this when you have not?

I posted a link on the endowment thread to a web site dealing with the temple. The author got pretty specific with some of the teachings on the temple and he admitted that his Stake President told him to take down his site or he would be subject to church discipline. Well, it is still there so I emailed him and asked him if they did anything. He responded and said he was excommunicated in his absence but it didn't matter because he already has his calling and election made sure.