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Is it fair to say that getting your Calling and Election Sure is something so private, only between the Lord and the person involved? The reason I ask this is because I think how is it possible that people go through this because of "recommendation"? I mean, something so sacred should not be a matter of picking and choosing. We're all humans, what man can really decide whether a person is worth of Exaltation here or not?

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Unless someone can verify the process right now it is speculative, however I must admit that if this is the process then I find it rather strange.

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Dbackers said this awhile ago and I agree... how can a single act like what the evangelists do somehow negate all the other things that many other have been doing for so long to reach the same place?

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Name: RDWhitaker
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Title: The Way Is Simple

Comments: I am forming an opinion that one of the most important scriptures for us in our day, is this, found in 2 Nephi 32:5-6:

This is Nephi's Guide to Having Your Calling and Election Made Sure!

1- He himself had his calling and election made sure, so he speaks from experience.
2- He addresses those people who have joined the Lord's church via the waters of baptism.
3- He identifies the "Doctrine of Christ" to those people who are members of Christ's church. The doctrine is:

Receive the Holy Ghost, [and] it will show unto you all things what ye should do.

Until we receive the Holy Ghost and do all things it tells us to do, we will not receive any further doctrine.

If we follow the Holy Ghost and do all things it tells us to do, it will lead us to having our calling and election made sure, and to having a personal audience with Jesus Christ. Then, we will receive further doctrine from Christ himself, "After he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh. And when he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh, the things which he shall say unto you shall ye observe to do."

If we never achieve this blessing from Christ, it is either because of personal sin and unworthiness, or

Too many latter-day saints are sitting stagnant, content with the spiritual status they are currently at, not seeking the higher way. They have damned their progression because they are stuck within verse 4.

The calling and election is obtained by asking and knocking! If we don't receive it, then we have to ask and knock and find out what we need to do to qualify for it. Let the Spirit guide. Follow the Spirit. Then, ask and knock some more. And some more, until it is obtained.

The calling and election can be witnessed to a person by a spiritual confirmation from the Holy Ghost, by words from a living servant of God, by words from an angel, translated or resurrected being, by the voice of Jesus Christ, or by the Person of Jesus Christ. It can come to an individual, separately from his/her spouse. The calling and election is a spiritual acknowledgment that the person has qualified for the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom.

The Second Comforter is an audience with Jesus Christ. Those who have their calling and election made sure are qualified to have the Second Comforter. The Second Comforter can come to persons individually, separately from his/her spouse. A person can enjoy the Second Comforter many times - it is not necessarily a one time only occurrence.

The Second Anointing is a priesthood ordinance performed in a temple of the Lord. It is performed with couples who have their calling and election made sure. It is done by invitation, through revelation, by appointment. It is a physical manifestation of a status already achieved by the couple. By it present and future blessings are secured.

The way to all of this was plainly pointed out by Nephi. Read 2 Nephi 32:4-6, and the warnings in verse 7. Read this as a personal, literal invitation and promise.

Keep in mind, Satan does not want us to achieve these blessings. His dark angels whisper things in our ears to discourage us from pressing forward. People who ask such things as "What if someone with their calling and election then sins?" are listening to the wrong voices. That kind of questioning only serves to dissuade people from striving for the goal.

One reason people who have their calling and election made sure keep quiet about it, is because Satan stirs up many people to rail against them when they find out. Those with their calling and election made sure are not perfect. They make mistakes, they have faults, they commit sins. If people listen to Satan's whisperings, they become fault-finders, criticizers, accusers, and contentious with the elect. But there are a few who receive inspiration and motivation learning that is it possible to make their calling and election sure, that others have done it, that the goal is reachable. So the fact that one has made his/her calling and election sure may be shared personally with others who are open to hear it. Sometimes it may be shared publicly to a bunch of anonymous people, even though the revilers revile, because someone reading it may take heart and start asking and knocking because of the testimony they received.

Take caution that you do not:

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Name: Michael
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Comments: Wow! Where to even start? The Prophet Joseph Smith said:

There is much on this thread that does not taste good, and most of it seems to be coming from one contributor. My advice is to reject whatever does not "Taste" good. I shall contribute my two cents worth and let you decide if it "Tastes" good or not.

Let's address one issue first. There seems to be a great deal of ignorance in the Church with respect to what is meant by "The Holy Spirit of promise." When a general authority says one thing and the Lord says something else, the word of the Lord should take precedence. So, let's take the Lord's definition of the Holy Spirit of promise:

>From this it is clear that the Holy Spirit of promise is the promise of eternal life and NOT the Holy Ghost, and there is no scripture anywhere that ever says anything about the Holy Ghost needing to "Ratify" ordinances performed by those who hold the priesthood, which is the authority of God (see D&C 121:37). When the Lord gives a man His authority, and then that man uses that authority to perform a priesthood ordinance, it is as valid as if the Lord had performed that ordinance Himself.

Since when does the Holy Ghost need to ratify ordinances performed by the Savior, who is higher than him in the Godhead? He doesn't, neither does he need to ratify ordinances performed by those to whom the Savior has given His authority.

The Savior has given to His prophets the authority to seal on earth and it would be sealed in heaven, irrespective of any purely hypothetical ratification buy the Holy Ghost:

The use of the word "Shall" makes the statement emphatic, just as it does in the ten commandments, and note that the Lord does NOT say that it shall be sealed in heaven, IF it is ratified by the Holy Ghost. When the Prophet of God, who holds the keys of the sealing power, seals someone up to eternal life, that person is sealed up to eternal life, irrespective of any purely hypothetical ratification by the Holy Ghost, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. It's as valid as if the Lord, Himself, had sealed that person up to eternal life because the Prophet did so with the authority of Jesus Christ, Himself (see D&C 1:38).

Since we know that the Holy Spirit of promise is the promise of eternal life, then through whom does that promise come?

>From this it is clear that the one through whom the promise of eternal life comes is the living prophet, whenever he seals a person with the Holy Spirit of promise. That is the ordinance that is known as a Second Anointing. It is the Second Anointing that makes a person's calling and election sure, and it does not need to be "Ratified" by the Holy Ghost. The doctrine that ordinances need to be "Ratified" by the Holy Ghost cannot be found anywhere in any of the four standard works of the Church.

Can the Prophet delegate the authority to perform that ordinance to others? Yes, but the revelation to seal any particular person up to eternal life would have to come through the living prophet.

Does the ordinance need to be received in this life? No, it can also be received by proxy in the spirit world by someone performing that ordinance for them in this life. [In my humble opinion], that will be the great mission of the 144,000 in the millennium. They will be 144,000 full-time temple workers who will be performing the Second Anointing and sealing up to eternal life those who are worthy of exaltation but who did not receive the ordinance in this life, because nobody can be exalted without receiving this ordinance either in this life or by proxy in the next.

What does it mean to have your calling and election made sure? In discussing the doctrine of Calling and Election Made Sure, Elder Bruce R. McConkie quotes D&C 132:26, which reads as follows:

Where was calling and election ever mentioned in that verse? It never was, yet Elder McConkie quotes it as talking about calling and election made sure. What we do find mentioned is being sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. That is what makes a person's calling and election sure.

And what happens if we are not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, either in this life or by proxy in the next? See D&C 132:7.

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Calling And Election Made Sure - I always like this D&C 93:1 - It explains it really well. Or as well as the scriptures can.

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So you think that all those who had their Calling and Election Made Sure have seen the face of Christ?

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For me it means the promise of Exaltation in this life. Something of course I cannot conceive for myself but a wonderful promise that can encourage us to live our lives in the best way we can.