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I'm really in to the British Punk Scene at the moment. The Clash, The Jam, The Banshees, ect. As for Metal I enjoy the works of Metallica and Motley Crue.

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Rather off topic, but... This is definitely a unique "post system/message board". It would be nice if a person could reply directly to individual posts but I will just shoot from the hip and see what happens.

I am 44 years old, have been a musician for a little over 30 of those years. I am very diverse in terms of the music that I appreciate but have to say openly my biggest love is Heavy Music. To say that it has a negative or fear oriented vibe, or to claim that it causes plants to die or anything else inherently derogatory is of a complete unprovable nature and indeed laughable. Music no matter the style or application is a form of expression most often interpreted on an internal level by the listener. It's not one constituting a preconceived abject outward' imposing diabolic force. In other words, what you might perceive as negative, another might perceive as life saving and gloriously positive and those determinations are based on the listener, not the music.

I think the best place to start historically is with the group that in fact epitomizes that which is Heavy Rock music. Black Sabbath. I certainly credit them with fathering that which is contemporary heavy music. Early on Black Sabbath was commercially characterized as an occult oriented band in an effort to better "market" them. This ridiculous notion was strictly the product of commercialism and by the time they released their third album they had publicly gone out of their way to denounce the misconception. They took their name from a an old Boris Karloff movie after running into legal snarls with their current name. Prior to the name Black Sabbath the same group of musicians were called "Earth" for several years and before that Polka Tulk. Hows the latter for one of the worst band names in history? For 4 very young and very poor Birmingham foundry working class boys, their music was NEVER about "I hate The World", "I'll scare you first & you'll ask questions later", or even "your mother wears army boots" It was rather "Let's over come the world that has been pushing us around", "Man is the cause of all fear & hate" & "If you try and talk over us, we'll turn up the music so everybody gets the message despite your belligerence"

Imposing: YES, Hateful: NO

Peace,
DrXparaMental

Message Edited... Persephone: Please use the Offtopic Tags so that the Thread maintains the same subject matter and does not develop into another Topic.

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DrXparaMental, interesting points. I suppose a lot of people feel negative about it because they may perceive an "aura" or they just stereotype all heavy metal. It has to do also with people listening to different bands too, they tend to put all music groups in the same bag while probably one band is quite different from the other.

Rather off topic, but... I am not sure if I understand what you meant about not able to reply to individual posts, I will post in your intro thread to discuss that. Thanks.

Edited: LDS_forever on 31st Dec, 2006 - 8:05pm

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The music you love today is about who you are today.

I'm over 50 and have loved almost every type of music at one time in my life or another. Heavy metal played an important role -- once. I'm older and I need quieter music and today I love New Age and the Classics with a lot of Celtic thrown in.

However, I may not listen to the Punk or Heavy metal now, I can recall times when it was the beat and the mood that soothed my restless soul. It wasn't the "noise" but the emotion and the strength of feelings that I needed because it was something I could relate to - at the time.
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ust because we are older and think we are wiser it doesn't make us so. It is remembering who we were and why that makes us wise today.

I'm grateful that I can relate to my grandson's and my nephew's love of the Heavy Metal music and I haven't forgotten that my emotional needs were once met in a similar way with music. Today my emotional needs are different so my musical needs are also different.

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I think music of all types addresses a specific part of who you are, and age is not an indicator of musical taste. I have developed a like for heavier and heavier music as I have gotten older. I still listen to classical, hip hop, and softer rock occassionally, but for the most part, its heavy metal, and I'm almost thirty with three kids, married for ten years. I like Disturbed, MudVayne, and Slipknot, all getting progressively heavier. Some of its very much anti-government like Disturbed, while mudvayne is more about life. I have to say Slipknot is rather disturbing, fear oriented at times, violent at times, and anti-religious at times. But while metal provides an outlet for that, much like hip hop provides it for a different genre, its not what metal stands for like people think.

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I cant see anything wrong with the punk music or metal (not death metal though that just scares me). It depends on what you would call punk really. A lot of old punk was some of the best music ever written. Take sublime for instance, there classed as punk in a way but there not thrashy at all. The clash, maybe a bit harsh in some songs but brilliant musicians non the less. You cant just be against a type of music, it's all about the individual band.

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I am not sure if they still are, but when they first came onto the scene Van Halen was definitely heavy metal. The good news is that they are going back out on tour with their legendary frontman and first class showman, David Lee Roth. The interesting twist to the plot is that Micheal Anthony was "fired or quit" and Wolfgang Van Halen has taken his spot on bass. While I always thought that Anthony was in the band because he was the oldest and could buy the beer, he was key on background vocals for the group despite his average bass play.

https://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_di...t_id=1003537232

Wolfgang is only 15 and this will be quite the request of him at this early age. While I really hope this goes well, I sense a trainwreck in the making.

How long do you think it will be before Eddie fires Roth or if he can muster the courage to fire his son or brother for that matter?

Either way, when the music is playing, Van Halen is a delight to listen to.

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In general I like music and can find a band / singers in almost every venue that I enjoy. For me it is the rhythm and the lyrics that seal the deal. I do attest any artist that promotes violence against others. I guess that means gangster rap will never be my forte.

But I grew up listening to either western ...country or rock and roll including the grandfathers of heavy metal like Black Sabbath.