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QUOTE (LDS_forever)His wife was a General - Page 2 - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 21st Nov, 2006 - 12:47am

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6th Nov, 2006 - 1:23am / Post ID: #

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A little information I found about Richard Lyman:

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Richard Roswell Lyman (November 23, 1870-December 31, 1963) was an apostle in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from 1918 to 1943. He was excommunicated in 1943 for cohabitation and rebaptized in 1954.

In 1943, the First Presidency discovered that Lyman was cohabitating with a woman other than his legal wife. As it turned out, in 1925 Lyman had begun a relationship which he defined as a polygamous marriage. Unable to trust anyone else to officiate, Elder Lyman and the woman exchanged vows secretly. By 1943, both were in their seventies. Lyman was excommunicated on November 12, 1943 at age 73. The Quorum of the Twelve provided the newspapers with a one-sentence announcement, stating that the ground for excommunication was violation of the Christian law of chastity, which any practice of post-Manifesto polygamy constituted. For years after his excommunication, some apostles worried that Elder Lyman might join the Mormon fundamentalist movement.

Later, he returned to the church through rebaptism on October 27, 1954.

He died 1963 at Salt Lake City, Utah.


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10th Nov, 2006 - 1:02am / Post ID: #

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Unable to trust anyone else to officiate, Elder Lyman and the woman exchanged vows secretly.

It is interesting that as an Apostle he felt he needed to do this and yet at the same time knew that no one would accept it. He came out of the era where these things were done in secret and must have been an encouragement for him to continue the practise. He should know that performing vows on oneself cannot be right as in every case and 'emergency' situation someone was always sought out to perform the ordinance.



10th Nov, 2006 - 1:23am / Post ID: #

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It is interesting that as an Apostle he felt he needed to do this and yet at the same time knew that no one would accept it.


We can argue that maybe he did not felt the need to do this but was told to do it.



10th Nov, 2006 - 1:32am / Post ID: #

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Told by who? If he could not trust anyone to perform it how can he have been told to do it? If you are saying a Heavenly Messenger came then why would he get such a message with no one willing (trusted) to fulfill. Others will of course argue that the devil told him to do it.



10th Nov, 2006 - 1:47am / Post ID: #

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Whatever was the reason, it was obviously a big thing for him, in order to take the risk of being excommunicated from the Church as an Apostle.



10th Nov, 2006 - 2:06am / Post ID: #

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Well love can make you do crazy things, many will argue that it was lust. Interesting point though, if it was a big deal for Hi, what about his wife? Did she agree whole hearted to allow this knowing they were going against the Church?



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20th Nov, 2006 - 3:16pm / Post ID: #

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Well love can make you do crazy things, many will argue that it was lust.


I would agree if the plural wife was a young lady but both Elder Lyman and his plural wife were on their 70's.

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what about his wife? Did she agree whole hearted to allow this knowing they were going against the Church?


As far as I am concerned, she was aware of it since he was living with the other lady and we are talking about elderly people here. His wife was a General Relief Society President.



21st Nov, 2006 - 12:47am / Post ID: #

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His wife was a General Relief Society President.

Well, well, that must have been a double whammy for the First Presidency, and I can see why they are so staunch against it in their current writings as the last high case was not too long ago.



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