Related Information to Having A Gun In The House

Having A Gun In The House - Page 10

arhvic,

Your comment "I don't believe you ever solve anything with violence" is the fundamental disagreement between us, not guns at all.

You also state that "criminals are also people" which I believe to be irrelevant, but ties into our disagreement about use of violence. I STRONGLY believe that anyone has the right to defend themselves against an aggressor. In most states, laws allow the use of deadly force in self defense. In my part-time job as a deputy sheriff, I understand that my job to "protect the public" primarily works as a deterrent to catch a criminal, that RARELY can I be present to protect someone from being injured. I certainly don't want to hurt someone if I don't have to, but if the threat of some sort of violence isn't there, why should a criminal or aggressor comply? To me it makes sense to allow the individual to have the ABILITY to EFFECTIVELY defend themself.

I STRONGLY believe in the RIGHT to fight back against an aggressor, I don't mean that one MUST, but they should have that right. (Either as an individual or group).

If you honestly believe that violence is NEVER the solution to problems, I ask you to look at the countries of the world and try to find even ONE that WAS NOT formed by violence or the threat of violence.

Like it or not, violence has been and continues to be a reality of life. Even if we choose to be totally passive ourselves, somewhere, somehow, violence has and likely will be used to allow us that luxury.

Violence HAS and CONTINUES to solve SOME of our problems.

Martin


PS I firmly believe that a firearm is the MOST effective device available to an individual to stop an aggressor. Perhaps someday we can have "phasers that are set on stun", but they don't exist in the real world yet (martial arts skills, pepper spray, Tazers, etc. are less effective for various reasons).


"The balance of power is the scale of peace." - Thomas Paine

"If you long for peace, prepare for war." - Sun Tzu

Edited: MartinR on 23rd Feb, 2006 - 2:49pm

House The Gun Having

Hi Martin,

I understand what you are saying, but the crux of my argument is actually based on guns and could be extended to any dangerous weapon.

Is it legal to carry around large machetes or swords for self-defence? I know in Australia it is illegal, and for good reason. Even if we are genuine in our use, they are dangerous weapons that more often than not will hurt people. So are guns. These weapons hurt people in attack and self defence - that is what weapons are designed to do.

I respect an individual's right to protection, but if this right is not controlled then it leads to more carnage than good. Guns don't save lives, they destroy them. This has been proven time and time again. You can not create statistics which suggest that revealing weapons stop criminals from killing people, because it is pure speculation.

I"ve researched this extensively. It seems almost everyone in the US medical fraternity, including government departments, are against guns. Those who belong to a gun lobby, are all for them.

We all know the US has by far the most gun related deaths of any developed country. This is no fluke or coincidence.

Using your earlier comparison between guns and cars:

If we removed all the cars in the US, you would reduce the amount of car related deaths. The same would happen if we removed all the guns. There would be far less gun deaths.

The difference is, car deaths are accidents, gun deaths aren't. Cars are designed to convey people, guns are designed to kill people.

And, if we removed all the cars the economy would shut down. If we removed all the guns, the streets would be a safer place.

Violence doesn't solve problems. It only destroys problems if you are on the stronger side. It's easy for people who live in the US to think violence is a great way of solving the world's crisis because you have the most powerful military. In most other countries, violence only makes things worse, especially for those who are weak.

I think tazer technology has a lot of merit if it can be developed to not kill people with weak heart conditions. What do you think?

Having A Gun In The House History & Civil Business Politics

Here are a couple of quotations regarding guns in society. I am adding them here because the topic obviously went far from the original intent of discussing guns as protection in the home.

"To preserve liberty,
it is essential
that the whole body of the people
always possess arms and be taught alike,
especially when young,
how to use them."
-- Richard Henry Lee
(1732-1794) Founding Father

"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device
to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie."
-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
[Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov] (1870 - 1924), First Leader of the Soviet Union

"Americans need never fear their government
because of the advantage of being armed,
which the Americans possess over the people
of almost every other nation."
-- James Madison
(1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

Personally, I fully believe in, and agree with, the words spoken by James Madison and Richard Henry Lee.

Page 10 House The Gun Having

Gun Week!

Welcome to Gun Week on the Glenn Beck Program! Chris Cox from the NRA kicked things off talking about the amazing story from New York City where a judge is ordering a jury to 'not talk' about the 2nd Amendment. Oh, don't worry about those Amendments---what's the big deal? Those things are only applicable in certain states and certain cities, right?
Ref. https://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/9902/

House The Gun Having

I believe in having a gun in the house. I believe that I have the right to that gun as it states in the 2nd Bill. I believe I have the right to protect myself and my family. I believe that I have the right to protect my property. I am not a member of any gun club or organization. I believe these things because the police can not be every where and the time it takes them to get to my house may be too long to save my family.

Having A Gun In The House

This is interesting for many reasons but it implies your right to protect your home from your president. That means the US military good luck. In the time it was said it was very very true and doable. Now he is right we should have the right to protect our homes. Guns though effective in capable experienced hands can work very effectively. But unless you have training in killing people you will likely just miss and be shot your self. There are better means to stop that intrusion before it gets to this point.

Has any one ever thought that if guns were banned the police could just shoot any in possession and not have to worry that he was in the wrong?

I do not think changing a gun crime for a knife or yoyo crime is reducing crime but just changing the weapon and as such guns are not the issue the people are. So Like Richard Henry Lee said train you young in firearms so that they are not a danger to themselves or others and defend our homes.

I just wish I could set more interesting items up that stop a would be burglar in his tracks.

Having Gun The House - Page 10

Yes I wish it were so Krakyn but booby trapping your home is a no no in the eyes of the courts. If a thief sets off a trap and his hand is cut off then you are liable for the maiming of said burglar even though he clearly did not abide by the "danger do not enter" sign that was posted.

Having Gun The House Politics Business Civil & History - Page 10

I had to smile at the thought of just putting up a warning sign and the crook cooking on the window sill. All we can do is educate our young and train them to look after their homes with in the letter of the law.