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Name: Lara Comments: I think it is plausible - Page 2 - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 11th Sep, 2008 - 5:39pm
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The Sword Of Laban And Gold Plates Destiny - Page 2
Was there only the one Hill Cummorah? I had heard once that there were actually two--and if that is true, could they reside in the "other" hill?
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I am not sure what you mean by "two", but keep in mind that Cummorah is a big place and burial of items in this manner was not unique to Moroni, but a way of the people in that day to hide things. Who knows, just as they still discover ancient plates and scrolls there may be more yet to be discovered.
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AlaskanLDS:
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That's a discussion that have been going on for years. Some scholars seem to believe there is only one but others seem to think the Hill Cumorah mentioned in the Book of Mormon is another one somewhere in Mesoamerica, giving the impression that the one in New York just carries the name as a way to honor the "real" one. Since the Church never did any digging or excavation on that area (as far as I know) there is no way to determine this, plus as JB says the place is huge, the sword and the golden plates could be hidden anywhere.
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| Mormon 6: 2, 4, 6, 11 2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle. "¢ "¢ "¢ 4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents round about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites. "¢ "¢ "¢ 6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni. "¢ "¢ "¢ 11 And when they had gone through and hewn down all my people save it were twenty and four of us, (among whom was my son Moroni) and we having survived the dead of our people, did behold on the morrow, when the Lamanites had returned unto their camps, from the top of the hill Cumorah, the ten thousand of my people who were hewn down, being led in the front by me. |
I think I got the idea from the scriptures above where it states he hid the records, THEN gave the few plates to his son. I guess I always thought before that Moroni then wandered around abridging them and eventually ended up in New York where he hid those plates.
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Name: Rob
Comments: I have a similar question. Just last night I was asking my wife how the gold plates got to New York. All or most of the Book of Mormon events took place in Central Americal. Did Moroni truly travel all the way to New York to bury the plates? Did he, along with Mormon, slowly make their way there as they were evading battles? I'm very interested in your thoughts (doctrine would be nice) regarding this question.
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| Did Moroni truly travel all the way to New York to bury the plates? Did he, along with Mormon, slowly make their way there as they were evading battles? |
I found the following, hope is helpful:
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| It is important to recognize that Mormon claimed to bury all the plates except those that became the Book of Mormon in the hill Cumorah (Mormon 6:6). The plates from whence we have the Book of Mormon were given to Moroni who, after more than thirty years, was still adding to the record. Moroni doesn't tell us where he plans to bury his plates, and it is not unreasonable that he carried them to New York during the many years following his father's demise. That such a trip is not as far-fetched as some might suppose, we know of an account of a shipwrecked sailor who walked for eleven months from Tampico, Mexico to Maine - nearly the same route and distance as Moroni would have had to travel. "Cumorah" was the name given to Moroni's hill by early LDS. While it's probable that early LDS may have supposed that the Cumorah of New York was the hill in which all of Mormon's records were deposited, a close reading of the text does not support this conclusion. |
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Name: Eli
Comments: Still, it doesn't make sense for the Book of Mormon to be in one hill and the sword and stuff to be in another. This couldn't happen because Joseph Smith saw the hill with the sword and stuff in them. The only way that could be possible is if that was the same hill as he found the plates in, unless he walked all the way to Mesoamerica.
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Name: Lara
Comments: I think it is plausible that the account of the "cave of records in the Hill Cumorah" could have been a vision. Nephi was carried away in a vision, as were countless other prophets. They never actually "went anywhere" but they were shown many amazing and wonderful things. It is possible Joseph and co. were "carried away in a vision" as the prophets of old. It would make sense.
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