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I hope I'm not coming off as contentious but should the church seek favor with man or God?

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No, you're not contentious at all. Of course the Church should seek favor with God, hopefully they do.

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Why all this focus on race? When will we ever be able to put all this silliness behind us?

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How does your post contribute to the topic? It is part of church history, should we no longer study the history of the church because Tragula finds it "Silly"?

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I think that my post contributes to the discussion by pointing out how silly it is to continue focusing on race, which no longer holds any meaning in the context of the gospel.

[..] Personally, I wish that we could move beyond this silly focus on race, especially since, as I have said, it no longer holds any meaning for us in a gospel context.

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Tragula, are you Black? I live in a country that is largely Black, should I tell them that any mention about Black Mormons is silliness? I can tell you that the past of the Mormon Church is not going away and people will always ask and wonder about Black issues within the Church because it is important to them.

You said race no longer holds meaning in a Gospel context because of - the lifting of the ban only a few decades ago? It is the fact that it is a fairly recent issue and not at Christ's resurrection is what makes the subject of Discussion even more relevant! It can be considered an insult to some to say that a Discussion on Black Mormons is silliness just because you say so. Your Post was merely to say I don't like talking about race and if you don't then why reply? With your thinking such issues as Blacks & The Mormon Priesthood is silly, Darius Gray and his movement authorized by the Presidency of the Church is silly, families who were denied Temple worship were also silly (Black Mormon Women And The Temple Denial) and asking why there isn't a Black GA is also silly. Anything Discussed about what Black people went through in the past is simply silly. In other words just because it does not happen to you does not make it silly.

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Read The Art Of Discussion. Do not answer Threads here saying they are "Silliness" Unless you add "In my opinion" And add constructively to the Topic.

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No. Are you?

So do I. In fact, there are several blacks in my ward, one of whom is a member of the Stake High Council, and another is my landlord. So what? Who cares about their color of their skin? Is that somehow more important that then color of their hair? The color of their eyes? Or the length of their nose? I don't think so.

Tell them what the Lord thinks about focusing on the way that people look:

The Lord was trying to tell us that we should not be focusing on the way that people look, but we don't seem to want to pay any attention to what the Lord said. We seem to want to keep focusing on how people look. Why? What difference does the color of a person's skin make? As I said before, is it somehow more important than the color of a person's hair? Or the color of their eyes? Or the length of their nose?

No, and it's not going to change either. Nobody can change the past.

Maybe so, but should it be? Base upon what the Lord said, I think that what we should be teaching them is that skin color is no more important than the color of a person's hair, or the color of a person's eyes, or the length of a person's nose. Otherwise we will never be able to progress beyond racial divides.

How? How is it relevant? Can you explain that to me?

Because I say so? I would have thought that it was self-evident that dividing up the members of the Church by skin color only serves to preserve racial prejudices. That is why I think it is silly. What purpose does it serve? Because I say so? Go back and reread 1 Sam. 16:7. From what the Lord said, I think that He thinks that it is silly too.

Please don't tell me what my post was about. I know what it was about better than you do. It's not just that I don't like talking about it, it's that I don't like hearing about it, because as I said, I believe that it only serves to preserve racial prejudices, which hurts the Church. That's why I reply.

Yes, you're right. What good does it do? The Priesthood issue is in the past and cannot be changed. Why keep picking the scab off the wound? How will the wound ever heal if we keep picking the scab off the wound?

No, that's not silly. What is silly is to keep picking the scab off the wound so that it can never heal.

Yes, it is, because as the Lord said, He doesn't look upon the outward appearance but only on the heart. Go back and reread 1 Sam. 16:7.

Not necessarily, but to worry about the skin color of people that the Lord calls to be General Authorities is as silly as worrying about their hair color, or their eye color, or the length of their noses.

No. Once again, you are reading that into what I said. If skin color were still an issue in the Church in this day and age, then it would not be silly regardless of whether I were personally suffering from discrimination or not. But as I said before, that is in the past. Race has no meaning in the context of the gospel today. If it does, then please explain how.

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Sorry. I would have thought that it was obvious that it was my opinion. I didn't realize that I needed to spell it out.

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You said you are not Black, that explains all. I have found from experience that those who are not Black generally then to trivialize any issue related to race as it concerns Black people. Quite interesting that you refer to those past issues as a "Wound" And "Scab", this denotes hurt and that's right it is meaningful and needs to be studied, regardless to what you think from your school thought as an Anglo Saxon the perspective and worth of this issue is important to them.

Now I can see you still have not understood the point of my previous Post, it was to say that if you find the Topic silly then do not Reply to say so, it is deemed nonconstructive here (Constructive Posting Policy). Now let those who wish to Discuss Black Mormons, continue to do so without your judgmental interruption as to the worth of the Topic.