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If Neo had taken the other door would that have meant Mr. Smith would have grown and taken over the machines and eventually Zion?

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No, the Architect would have eliminated him and the cycle would have restarted, with a new Neo, new Zion, etc.

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So you are saying that Mr. Smith was not a threat at all to the Architect? Then that brings me back to my first issue - why all this in the first place? Maybe Zion needs to exist for some reason? Or is all of it one big Matrix within a Matrix?

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Exactly! The existence of Zion was simply to give the humans hope that they could somehow be liberated from the Matrix. This was the only way that those who somehow found out about the Matrix could think they could be freed from it. They would be given some of the truth and allowed to live in Zion, where they were supposedly free. Then they would find The One who could be their savior and ultimately it was up to The One to determine to what extent their freedoms could go to. With Revolutions, Neo took that step towards the 'freedom' the humans so desperately wanted; freedom to choose between the Matrix and Zion.

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Interesting. So if Zion only exists in the minds of the humans who are already are being used as batteries then there is no such thing as 'being plugged in' since they are always in the matrix and cannot determine what is real and what is not - which brings us to the thought: 'Is any of it real?' The Architect's problem then was that if the humans did not mentally think there would be freedom they would not be happy enough, if they did not then there would be a ;crash' of the system or in other words - power failure. That brings up something though... how would humans even get a glimpse that there is a matrix unless the system is not as perfect as it would like to believe. The Animatrix gives us a story to follow how all this happened but then again that could be the machine just choosing for them to believe that.

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I think you are right when you talk about the system not being perfected yet. That is the reason humans realize the Matrix is not real, but as you can see, the cases are very few a.k.a the population of Zion. As with any complicated construct there are flaws, back doors, etc and these are where some humans find out the real truth about the world they live in. With the events in Revolutions and humans now thinking they have the ability to choose, it will make the system almost flawless, because anyone who wants to choose, can go to Zion, but will still be in A matrix of sorts and still under the influence of the machines.

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Ok, so now that the new directors - Malexander and JB@Trinidad have debugged the Matrix with their opinions we now have to ask questions like where does the Frenchman enter in all of this and various roles of characters ...and hope we are not wrong when Christmas comes around). However, we can take that up in the various character role specific threads on this board. So based on all this it seems like everything is destined to happen the way it does... this is something the Oracle emphasizes a lot. We are only given the 'illusion' of choice to make us believe we are in control (the Frenchman teaches that).

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I am not banking on the box set in December divulging the thought process of the brothers and their vision of the Matrix saga. They have always maintained that they want people to think about the films (like we have done all day today) and come up with their own opinions. Thats what makes the films so special. What good would it be if they just gave everything away after Revolutions?
The 'illusion' of choice is the key here, as you stated, because it gives humans the warm fuzzy blanket that they control their fate, their destiny, which in some semblance they do, but no to the extent that they think they do.

Edited: malexander on 14th Aug, 2004 - 9:34pm